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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    What would happen, though, if there was a trap designed to look like a normal road, maybe a large crater/hole with an asphalt-colored tarp covering it. Neither the computer nor the brain will catch this one, initially, but the brain forgets, the computer does not...(hopefully, if memory space diminishes to zero...we are in trouble.)

    I wonder if the car would be effective in detecting and detouring in that scenario.
    Computers are but another tool, freeing our brain from the repetitious
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain....
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Computers are but another tool, freeing our brain from the repetitious
    So, nothing is perfect, nor can be...
    Sure, and I believe that the human element - the brain - would be good at detecting the slight abnormalities in the road ahead that might be hinting towards a possible fake road trap such as heavy road debris (ie from digging a hole) next to an otherwise "untouched" road scene ahead.

    The computer , on the other hand can utilize modern technology - maybe tools such as sonar & heat seeking radar - to detect holes beneath sheets of tarp painted to look like asphalt to alert the driver electronically of imminent danger.

    "False roads" or "fakeways" (as we call it in Chicago) are becoming a real problem and cause millions of dollars in damage each year to cars and roads. This is just another tool in the fight against them.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    What do we do when the car's OS freezes? What happens when it drops into an endless loop, waiting for some resource to become available? Ooo, ooo, hard drive failure!

    Hell, for that matter, do we really to give hackers an even more tempting target than our smart-phones?

    In case you couldn't guess, I'm voting "no."
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Computers are but another tool- making life easier,perhaps even better...hard to tell.
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    If nothing else, self-driving cars will make commutes go faster (and make it so you don't have to watch the road during your commute), which will free up more leisure time that you could spend with your family, thus improving life by your definition.

    Let's not forget that long commutes increase divorce risk too.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    What do we do when the car's OS freezes? What happens when it drops into an endless loop, waiting for some resource to become available? Ooo, ooo, hard drive failure!
    That is a solved problem. There are plenty of redundant setups, ie airplane computers, that have acceptable reliability compared to a generalized consumer OS.

    Hell, for that matter, do we really to give hackers an even more tempting target than our smart-phones?
    The sensible way to avoid hacking is to keep the vital components off any kind of network. If you restrict hacking to people who have physical access, the danger is no greater than it is today.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If nothing else, self-driving cars will make commutes go faster (and make it so you don't have to watch the road during your commute), which will free up more leisure time that you could spend with your family, thus improving life by your definition.
    Yeah -- right up until your boss figures out he can compel you to use that time for work.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That is a solved problem. There are plenty of redundant setups, ie airplane computers, that have acceptable reliability compared to a generalized consumer OS.
    I realize that, but I imagine that the pilots who fly those planes would never expect those to bear any resemblance to their home systems, or to provide any entertainment functions, or to be expandable or compatible or any number of other things that would instigate failures.

    Furthermore, are those systems used to manage the avoidance of collisions? Do they steer the craft through traffic as dense as downtown or the freeway? My sneaky feeling is that the answer to all of that is "no."

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The sensible way to avoid hacking is to keep the vital components off any kind of network. If you restrict hacking to people who have physical access, the danger is no greater than it is today.
    No, the sensible way to avoid hacking is to avoid networking our cars to begin with -- but we won't.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yeah -- right up until your boss figures out he can compel you to use that time for work.
    If bosses want to make you work more hours, there is nothing stopping them from doing so right now (other than the economics of their business and a few labor laws). Why would they care whether you spend your time off the clock with your family or stuck in traffic?
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I realize that, but I imagine that the pilots who fly those planes would never expect those to bear any resemblance to their home systems, or to provide any entertainment functions, or to be expandable or compatible or any number of other things that would instigate failures.

    Furthermore, are those systems used to manage the avoidance of collisions? Do they steer the craft through traffic as dense as downtown or the freeway? My sneaky feeling is that the answer to all of that is "no."
    Self-driving cars can and do navigate through dense traffic and avoid collisions. And the performance is constantly improving in line with Moore's Law.

    No, the sensible way to avoid hacking is to avoid networking our cars to begin with -- but we won't.
    Self-driving cars do not need to be networked to other cars (although in some cases it might improve efficiency to do so). Most current designs are truly autonomous.
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