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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You assume accidents caused by the robot will be far less than the accidents now. A few thousand people die every year on the road, some in preventable situations. Humans do make mistakes and cannot be as universally programmed as cars. I think with enough time you can refine the programs well enough to have a positive impact; but the testing phase may be hell.
    The testing phase is already underway and the early results are extremely encouraging. Google has driven its self-driving car at least 150,000 miles in California (as of last year...probably at least double that by now) with no accidents, except two fender-benders caused by other human drivers.

    Granted, 150,000 miles isn't enough testing by any means, but they have hardly been an abysmal failure. So far they seem to be doing at least as well as humans. And human drivers aren't getting any better, unlike self-driving cars.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    As an applied mathematician and computer scientist, I am curious what percentage of the public would accept the conversion from using human-driven automobiles to self-driving automobiles. The necessary technology is clearly realistic. Let's assume, for the sake of simplicity, that the cost will be relatively the same. Here is just an initial list of benefits of my proposal:
    1. Prevention of DUI
    2. Prevention of accidents due to poor driving skills
    3. Prevention of traffic jams
    4. Potential to increase speed limits
    5. Freedom to focus on other things (child, eating, work, etc.)
    6. Auto-navigation

    Some of these even have benefits as a consequence, such as improved fuel efficiency as a result of fewer/no traffic jams. What support or opposition does anyone wish to provide?
    Seems like self driven high speed rails would be more realistic. Even high speed rails alone would address much of the stuff on your list.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Self driving cars on highways and freeways gives you the most benefit and is the easiest to implement. Computers can more easily handle the limited number of variables and most long trips are spent on high speed roads. Cars networked together would also improve traffic flow. I am more skeptical for robots driving streets. Dealing with pedestrians and parking rely on having social knowledge that is very hard to program.
    My car has cruise control. does that count?

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Anything mechanical can break....I dont want to be sitting in a self driven vehicle that has a malfunction...I prefer to kill myself driving
    Which would be fine, if human drivers were only a threat to themselves on the road.

    Then theres the lemons...then theres shoddy manufacturing and building...at least if im in control and a malfunction occurs I can take defensive measures to save myself....nah Ill personally pass on the self driven cars
    This is what I call the illusion of control; people like to feel they are in control of their fate regardless of the evidence to the contrary. It's why some people have a fear of flying and prefer to drive instead, despite it being statistically more dangerous.

    I would suggest that it's far more likely that a smart car could help prevent YOUR malfunctions, than vice versa. In fact, this may have already occurred if you have a car with autonomous systems like self-parking, lane departure warnings, or GPS navigation tools.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My car has cruise control. does that count?
    No. Remember the case of the stupid lady who sued after her RV crashed because she set it to cruise control and left the wheel? We can prevent that from happening again.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Seems like self driven high speed rails would be more realistic. Even high speed rails alone would address much of the stuff on your list.
    The infrastructure is already in place for self-driving cars, and they would be much more practical for short-distance travel than high speed rail would be.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    If the technology develops sufficiently to be widely adapted, it will become omnipresent. Once it becomes omnipresent, we won't dare go without it. Who could, in good conscience, suggest we return to the days when over a hundred thousand Americans died in automobile accidents, annually?
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    most of the folks expressing opposition to reality of computer assisted driving have already experienced it first hand
    if they have flown in a commercial plane
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    No. Remember the case of the stupid lady who sued after her RV crashed because she set it to cruise control and left the wheel? We can prevent that from happening again.
    Haven't heard about that, but it's is kind of not surprising. Having a self driven RV would be awesome though.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In fact, this may have already occurred if you have a car with autonomous systems like self-parking, lane departure warnings, or GPS navigation tools.
    Sure as hell don't. Never been in an accident that wasn't my fault either. Nor have I had a speeding ticket in nearly 20 years.

    Computers are great, there's a lot you can do with them. Over reliance on them will not bring us to a better place, however.
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