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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    OK but for this to work, all cars on the road will have to be able to comunicate with each other. All cars. At this point in time, people can chose what car they drive even if it is a '60s car.

    How is a self-driven car going to avoid older driven cars that can't communicate with them? They will be speaking a whole different language than the older cars spoke.
    That isn't true. The google car is driving on our roads as we speak without being able to communicate. The setup isn't have a centrally processed system that tells each car where to go. It is to give each car sensors so it can autonomously navigate itself.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    I see the practical implementation for a self driving car something like this.

    1) The first gen vehicles which already exist They have something like a laser rangefinder which detects the distance of the car in front of your and automatically controls the brake and throttle to maintain a safe following distance without driver input.
    2) The next step is probably to include sensors that can identify a lane on the highway and stay within it. Combined with the features above, the car can drive itself on long highway trips, only requiring user input to change lanes.
    3) The big step. You combine the ability to change lanes with the ability to handle merges and forks in the freeway. The robot car needs to have 360 sensor capability, a navigation database and some advanced control software. Essentially, you drive the car onto the on-ramp and it drives itself to whatever off-ramp upon which you resume control. Designating certain lanes as robot car only would help in optimizing traffic flow.

    Up to this point I am very confident that robot cars will be viable. Once you start getting into driving in urban or residential areas, you run into problems that don't have obvious solutions.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I see the practical implementation for a self driving car something like this.

    1) The first gen vehicles which already exist They have something like a laser rangefinder which detects the distance of the car in front of your and automatically controls the brake and throttle to maintain a safe following distance without driver input.
    2) The next step is probably to include sensors that can identify a lane on the highway and stay within it. Combined with the features above, the car can drive itself on long highway trips, only requiring user input to change lanes.
    3) The big step. You combine the ability to change lanes with the ability to handle merges and forks in the freeway. The robot car needs to have 360 sensor capability, a navigation database and some advanced control software. Essentially, you drive the car onto the on-ramp and it drives itself to whatever off-ramp upon which you resume control. Designating certain lanes as robot car only would help in optimizing traffic flow.

    Up to this point I am very confident that robot cars will be viable. Once you start getting into driving in urban or residential areas, you run into problems that don't have obvious solutions.
    What happens on rainy days and areas with a lot of mud?

    If the sensors can get dirty and get covered up in any way you can never depend on them.

    Too many ? to trust your life with.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What happens on rainy days and areas with a lot of mud?
    The self-driving vehicle (unlike many human drivers) would adjust to weather conditions and drive accordingly.

    If the sensors can get dirty and get covered up in any way you can never depend on them.
    If YOUR sensors get dirty (i.e. your ability to see the road is impeded because your windshield is covered in rain/ice/snow or you have a headlight out or you're drunk), I wouldn't recommend driving until you get the issue resolved. The obvious difference would be that the self-driving car would at least know when it was unable to drive safely, whereas many humans get behind the wheel when they clearly should not.

    Too many ? to trust your life with.
    Just because you have questions doesn't mean that these things don't already have perfectly valid answers.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What happens on rainy days and areas with a lot of mud?

    If the sensors can get dirty and get covered up in any way you can never depend on them.

    Too many ? to trust your life with.
    1) Freeways don't get muddy.
    2) You can mount the senors high enough above the ground so they won't get splattered.
    3) Windshields and headlights are already vulnerable yet mud isn't the cause of very many accidents.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    My Accord has this feature, which IMHO isn't a high-end car. With the cars monitoring this, notification could be sent to an authority figure through the network for enforcement.
    30,000 car isnt low end and its the higher end of midrange

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Yeah but how many wrecks have you caused? Ever look in your rear view mirror?

    None as far as I know!

    And this got me thinking, what would happen with the no texting whilst driving laws??
    If you had a car that drove itself, it didn't need your hands, could you feel free to text away??

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    30,000 car isnt low end and its the higher end of midrange
    It cost $22k, not $30k.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    It cost $22k, not $30k.
    I don't even make 22K in a year, forget about being able to fork over that much cash for a new car.

    Show me something in the 5K range, like a conversion kit, and then tell me how this investment is going to save me money over the life of my car.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't even make 22K in a year, forget about being able to fork over that much cash for a new car.

    Show me something in the 5K range, like a conversion kit, and then tell me how this investment is going to save me money over the life of my car.
    Right now it wouldn't. Once the technology is tested and the cost of the necessary computing power comes down, I can think of several ways it could save you money: 1) Reducing your commute time and allowing you to spend the commute doing something other than watching the road, 2) Reducing your likelihood of being in an accident, 3) Reducing your insurance rates, 4) Reducing the amount of gas you use through more fuel-efficient driving habits, 5) Removing the necessity of owning a car at all...at least if you live in a city or suburbs.
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