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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If bosses want to make you work more hours, there is nothing stopping them from doing so right now (other than the economics of their business and a few labor laws). Why would they care whether you spend your time off the clock with your family or stuck in traffic?
    My belief is that if they can have you working while you're driving to or from work, they'll do it. Call it a gut feeling.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Self-driving cars can and do navigate through dense traffic and avoid collisions. And the performance is constantly improving in line with Moore's Law.
    I have no doubt that there have been successful tests of self-driving cars. Have they managed craptacular weather or rush hour traffic? How about the fact that as self-driving cars become more common, a simple design flaw cascaded across a fleet of cars could result in gigantic pile-ups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Self-driving cars do not need to be networked to other cars (although in some cases it might improve efficiency to do so). Most current designs are truly autonomous.
    I didn't mean cars networked to other cars -- I thinking more about cars with Internet access:

    Parrot's ASTEROID Connects Your Car to the Web

    It's a short hop from something like that to a self-piloting system with integrated wireless or remote access -- and we do love to push those kinds of boundaries.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    I realize that, but I imagine that the pilots who fly those planes would never expect those to bear any resemblance to their home systems, or to provide any entertainment functions, or to be expandable or compatible or any number of other things that would instigate failures.
    The computer system controlling a robot car would have dedicated hardware running on its own system, just like modern computerized engine timing and traction control. The driver of the car will have zero ability to interact with it. Entertainment functions would obviously be completely separate, just like they are now.

    Furthermore, are those systems used to manage the avoidance of collisions? Do they steer the craft through traffic as dense as downtown or the freeway? My sneaky feeling is that the answer to all of that is "no."
    I am not claiming that autopilot software on a plane is the same as a care. The point is that the computer itself will function reliably in the face of potential shutdowns, glitches and minor hardware failure. If you can devise a navigation system that works on a car, you won't have to worry about it getting the blue screen of death.

    No, the sensible way to avoid hacking is to avoid networking our cars to begin with -- but we won't.
    Cars are already networked together. Using turn signals may be primitive, but it is an effective form of communication nonetheless. Networking may sound scary, but it doesn't mean the car is vulnerable to hacking anymore than you are just because you can communicate with fellow drivers. A properly designed system can keep different system separated enough to maintain security.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Under what circumstances would you want/need to do so?
    Hold on now, you're the OP, we don't have to explain ourselves.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    I would love the option, I'd buy one for sure. But I would never force people into it.

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My belief is that if they can have you working while you're driving to or from work, they'll do it. Call it a gut feeling.
    If you're on the clock then that's reasonable, otherwise they can't make you. It's funny how I'm trying to design something to make your life simpler and you seem all worried that it'll make your life harder.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hold on now, you're the OP, we don't have to explain ourselves.
    That was a rhetorical question to imply that the feature requested was unnecessary.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by dadrone View Post
    I would love the option, I'd buy one for sure. But I would never force people into it.
    I would push for it as the standard in order to maximize efficiency and eliminate accidents due to ignorance. If the majority of the cars on the road are still human-driven then benefits are pretty significantly reduced. For example, grandpa or grandma driving in front can still prevent the self-driven car from being able to do the speed limit. I've already mentioned that it prevents people from driving recklessly, DUI, talking/texting while driving, etc. Therefore, forcing people into it is for the greater good.
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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Mathematician, do you percieve any flaws in your plan of self-driving automobiles?

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    Re: Self-driving automobiles

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Mathematician, do you percieve any flaws in your plan of self-driving automobiles?
    from my perspective, and assuming the technology to make this actually viable is on the horizon, the upside of this prospect massively dwarfs the negative implication of the learning curve required to achieve total reliability

    besides being safer, more efficient, and better utilizing our existing infrastructure, this would make personal transportation a routine option for those who do not possess it today: the elderly who cannot/should not drive, those without the means to afford a car, and those under the current driving age (potentially eliminating the need for school buses)
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