Last edited by jamesrage; 08-19-11 at 08:20 PM.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
There is nothing illegal about being a peeping tom. Installing a hidden camera in your bedroom is illegal because involves breaking and entering. Spying on ladies at the nude beach is perfectly legal. The state has no compelling interest if creepy guys want to get off or not. The only interest in child pornography is protecting children, which is why it is ridiculous to use it to charge them with crimes.Other people fantasizing about them? WTF.. you could use that argument if were discussing explicit images of sexual abuse too. The minor isn't literally being abused every time you look at an imagine of them being abused... Those images are just a for fantasy purposes.
What's wrong with peeping toms? What's wrong with hidden cameras in your bedroom? There is no law against pervs having a right to get off. They need their fantasies too... it's not hurting you.
So I was wrong.
But it lead to a good convo I hope.
I still don't think if Penthouse or Playboy published Sally Mann the images would become suddenly illegal though.