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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I worked at a photography book store in NYC.

    David Hamilton was one of the best sellers.

    So were Sally Mann, Jock Sturges, Nan Goldin and Larry Clark. All who have made images of nude children in the USA.



    That has nothing to do with it being legal or not as far as I know.



    I think Playboy has published David Hamilton images.
    If age has nothing to do with it, then why don't minors pose nude in Playboy?

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    If age has nothing to do with it, then why don't minors pose nude in Playboy?
    I doubt Playboy wants the headache.

    Look at the flak French Vogue is getting right now.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This came up in another thread, but I felt it warrants it's own discussion.

    The scenario is a minor, takes naked/sexual pictures of themselves, and posts it on the internet. Now my question is, are they distributing child pornography, and if so, should they be prosecuted like any other child pornographer?

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    Technically it is child porn in the sense that the pictures are of nude minors and these minors are distributing those pictures. That said child porn laws are generally viewed to protect children that are 12 and under from sickos trying to make child porn, not protect dumbass teenagers from emailing (or what ever it is called) nude pictures of themselves to each other. Only a liar would say that the intent of these anti-child porn laws is to punish teenagers from emailing nude pictures to each other. Technically it may be child porn however they should not be criminally charged for it. Personally I think the maybe a female officer should show these dumb ass teenagers what happens when a female decides to send a nude pic or video of herself to her boyfriend, which wouldn't be that hard because they can google cam whore, cam slut, nude cams and so on. I think on some cable tv stations they started running public service commercials why you should not send nude pics to someone else.
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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't see what that has to do with the topic...
    You wrote "they are often times too young and naive to realize the risks involved in those decisions." and this is what concerned parents who are opposed to letting teen girls have the right to decide on abortions for themselves also believe. I was just curious on how you came down on the issue.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I doubt Playboy wants the headache.

    Look at the flak French Vogue is getting right now.
    I think the difference is that your examples are not supposed to be sexually arousing or explicit... Playboy and Penthouse are about sex and it's intended to sexually arouse.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You wrote "they are often times too young and naive to realize the risks involved in those decisions." and this is what concerned parents who are opposed to letting teen girls have the right to decide on abortions for themselves also believe. I was just curious on how you came down on the issue.
    Talking about abortion in the thread would divert the topic... the abortion issue always does that.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Other people fantasizing about them? WTF.. you could use that argument if were discussing explicit images of sexual abuse too. The minor isn't literally being abused every time you look at an imagine of them being abused... Those images are just a for fantasy purposes.

    What's wrong with peeping toms? What's wrong with hidden cameras in your bedroom? There is no law against pervs having a right to get off. They need their fantasies too... it's not hurting you.
    There is nothing illegal about being a peeping tom. Installing a hidden camera in your bedroom is illegal because involves breaking and entering. Spying on ladies at the nude beach is perfectly legal. The state has no compelling interest if creepy guys want to get off or not. The only interest in child pornography is protecting children, which is why it is ridiculous to use it to charge them with crimes.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    There is nothing illegal about being a peeping tom. Installing a hidden camera in your bedroom is illegal because involves breaking and entering. Spying on ladies at the nude beach is perfectly legal. The state has no compelling interest if creepy guys want to get off or not. The only interest in child pornography is protecting children, which is why it is ridiculous to use it to charge them with crimes.
    Pretty sure there are laws against peeping toms, and you don't have to break and enter to install a camera in the bedroom. I have heard about landlords doing that very thing. And some celebrity built a hotel and installed cameras in the women's bathroom. I remember hearing about that. He apparently had a toilet fetish.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Talking about abortion in the thread would divert the topic... the abortion issue always does that.
    Fair enough. Do you recall if you've ever given your opinion on parental consent issues for abortion. If so, would you direct me to the thread. I'm curious to see whether you, and others, believe that young girls are mature enough to have control over medical/surgical decisions for their bodies but not mature enough to take naked pictures of themselves.

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    Re: Is this person distributing child pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think the difference is that your examples are not supposed to be sexually arousing or explicit... Playboy and Penthouse are about sex and it's intended to sexually arouse.
    Ithink the images she did in Penthouse were sex. I caught a glimpse of them on a oogle search (cropped versions).

    So I was wrong.

    But it lead to a good convo I hope.

    I still don't think if Penthouse or Playboy published Sally Mann the images would become suddenly illegal though.

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