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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

    65 71.43%
  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

    10 10.99%
  • There is not enough information to know for sure

    7 7.69%
  • No, evolutuon does not happen

    5 5.49%
  • I don't know

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    Re: Evolution

    Mutations are usually random, but environment decides which mutations will be a success. Most mutations are negative. Evolution has been observed. The most promising study of evolution, imo, is epigenetics. This phenomenon shows how our environment can change us on a genetic level in a single generation. Larger changes have not yet been observed because they take longer. However, the fossil record we do have shows that these changes have taken place.

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    Re: Evolution

    There has actually been minor occurrences of evolution that have been observed in our lifetime. So in this sense, it is happening all around us. However, no scientific theory can be fully proven; one can only support or disprove a theory. For example, the theory of gravity is well supported; there is like a 99.99% chance that when you drop an apple it will fall to the ground ... however, there is still a chance that it will not, however minute that chance is. Simply because we have not seen an instance where gravity has no effect, does not mean that gravity exists; it only means that the theory is extremely well supported.

    As for the evolution of the different species, as of now, the best possible explanation for what species currently look like is evolution. It is a well supported theory; however, like all things that we think we "know", evolution has never been proven, only well supported.

    Evolution is not an entity in itself, it has no "will"; it is a process wherein random genetic mutations are selected for if they are more advantageous for the organism (advantageous meaning that that genetic mutation would lead to more of that species surviving to produce more viable offspring).

    Therefore, the process of evolution is both random (the random genetic mutations) and non-random (genes being selected for on the basis of better reproduction).

    Whether or not things were set into motion (i.e. some initial creation of matter and movement) by a higher power is really a matter of faith. I am of the inclination that a higher power did set things in motion and I have no idea what the term "higher power" means in this sense ... just something that is beyond my understanding.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you believe evolution happened and is happening? Do you think a higher power guides evolution or is it random?
    I think evolution happens and I think it was initiated by a higher power, but I don't think it's "guided" by a higher power.

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    Re: Evolution

    I put I dont know...because no one can tell me how the VERY first life organism got here and I havent seen Jesus yet...so I just dont now...and neither do any you :P

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    Re: Evolution

    Rolling dice is random; however if I were to throw a handful of dice and select the dice that come up as a six to keep, and then roll the others again it will not take many rolls at all until all the dice show 6's. Once selection acts on a random process, the result after selection is no longer random.

    Underlying mechanisms behind evolution are random, but then they are forced through a filter -natural selection - once natural selection acts upon these random processes the result afterwards is no longer random.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I put I dont know...because no one can tell me how the VERY first life organism got here and I havent seen Jesus yet...so I just dont now...and neither do any you :P
    Evolution has nothing to do with how the first life organism got here. It has to have existing organisms to work on. Abiogenisis is what you are talking about, and is entirely separate from evolution.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To be clear: Mutations are random, and are what allow changes. "Survival of the fittest" isn't really random, but it is also not directed(assuming no higher power). It's a clever phrase to describe what mutations tend to flourish. WHen I said "evolutiuon is random", I meant kinda all of that, but did not explain clearly. My apologies to any who answered wrong based on that.
    geez, I did not know the quiz was going to be graded and my answer would be counted "wrong" as a result.

    I had to clarify my answer and could not go with the "random" bit since it is perpetually used in an attempt to discredit evolution, it is right up there with "its just a theory"
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Evolution has nothing to do with how the first life organism got here. It has to have existing organisms to work on. Abiogenisis is what you are talking about, and is entirely separate from evolution.
    To evolve you have to have a life form to evolve from correct..? where did it come from...Im admittedly no scientist lol...as if you couldnt tell

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    To evolve you have to have a life form to evolve from correct..? where did it come from...Im admittedly no scientist lol...as if you couldnt tell
    I do not know. However, evolution starts once there is life. It does not address how life came to be.
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    Re: Evolution

    Nate Silver linked to this poll today... maybe it's because I live in such a wealthy, educated area, but I find this kind of hard to believe:

    Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

    Not only do only 30% of Republicans believe in evolution, only 58% of Democrats do, and only 49% of the U.S. overall (vs 48% who don't). I guess that puts me in the tiny minority of Republicans who do. Which is weird, because my whole conservative/libertarian philosophy regarding the free market hinges on evolution being true at every aspect of life.

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