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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

    65 71.43%
  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

    10 10.99%
  • There is not enough information to know for sure

    7 7.69%
  • No, evolutuon does not happen

    5 5.49%
  • I don't know

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Thread: Evolution

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    It is happening alright, but there has to be an intelligent, powerful force behind it.
    what force? The Force? The invisible hand? Natural selection?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    Yes, i suppose i do. An intelligent being in other words.
    Thanks for answering the question. Your position is why I've been very careful with my language in earlier parts of the debate.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    what force? The Force? The invisible hand? Natural selection?
    I don't know for sure. But it has to be something. I personally believe it to be God.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    I don't know for sure. But it has to be something. I personally believe it to be God.
    Thanks.

    Personally, I don't doubt the existence of God, but I don't believe His existence is necessary to explain the process of evolution. I don't think there necessarily needs to be an intelligent force for the evolutionary process to exist. Can you explain why you believe it "has to be something"?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    I don't know for sure. But it has to be something. I personally believe it to be God.
    Why does it have to be something?

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    Re: Evolution

    I sense an argument from incredulity in the near future.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Why does it have to be something?
    I think the universe is the creation of an infinite intelligence (i.e God). Just because Evolution exists, it doesn't mean there is no God.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    I think the universe is the creation of an infinite intelligence (i.e God). Just because Evolution exists, it doesn't mean there is no God.
    But why do you think this? Where is the proof to defend such a claim???

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    But why do you think this? Where is the proof to defend such a claim???
    Do you have any idea how many things people believe that are not backed up by science? Look at all of the faith-based liberal policies. Unless someone is forcing you to believe their position it is probably better to follow this advice: "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

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    Re: Evolution

    There's no 'proof'. That's why it's called faith.

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