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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

    65 71.43%
  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

    10 10.99%
  • There is not enough information to know for sure

    7 7.69%
  • No, evolutuon does not happen

    5 5.49%
  • I don't know

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    you aren't.


    then there is no point in discussing it with you if all you can contribute is an arbitrary opinion.




    so? there are lots of unimportant matters and ideas. but why would you willfully want to be wrong about any of them ?

    its one thing to be apathetic. its quite another to intentionally deceive yourself.

    to use an analogy, false beliefs are like weeds. though they are usually irrelevant they tend to spring up in unpredictable places and ruin the plants around them.
    Willful deception is commonly practiced. Even by those science minded folks. People frequently research things not to find the 'truth' but with the specific intent to prove a hypothesis. Mans gotta publish...right?

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Willful deception is commonly practiced. Even by those science minded folks. People frequently research things not to find the 'truth' but with the specific intent to prove a hypothesis. Mans gotta publish...right?
    Are you suggesting that scientists fabricate results? The only way to prove a hypothesis is to find supporting evidence. Unless the evidence is false, then your premise is faulty. Go ahead, accuse the scientific community of just being a bunch of liars.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Are you suggesting that scientists fabricate results? The only way to prove a hypothesis is to find supporting evidence. Unless the evidence is false, then your premise is faulty. Go ahead, accuse the scientific community of just being a bunch of liars.
    Scientists are not saints. Society is blessed that the scientific method is accepted as a norm for how science is conducted. The process of science WILL correct for negligence and fraud, eventually. Eventually.

    There is all sorts of bull**** that happens in the matter of how the work of science is conducted. The social system that governs the conduct of science is most certainly subject to corruption. The work of people that one criticizes in a paper can end up being anonymously reviewed by the person you're criticizing.

    The point is that anything bad you can imagine about scientists is likely to exist somewhere right now. The only shining light here is that the methods of science erode the corruption that can find it's way into the social systems which govern the conduct of scientists. Truth will eventually come out.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Are you suggesting that scientists fabricate results? The only way to prove a hypothesis is to find supporting evidence. Unless the evidence is false, then your premise is faulty. Go ahead, accuse the scientific community of just being a bunch of liars.
    ALL of the scientific community? No...of course not. Some? Helz yes.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    ALL of the scientific community? No...of course not. Some? Helz yes.
    the theory of evolution is based on a large body of evidence. for this whole conspiracy theory to work would require that a majority of biologists, geneticists, paleontologists, etc are all in on the conspiracy.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    the theory of evolution is based on a large body of evidence. for this whole conspiracy theory to work would require that a majority of biologists, geneticists, paleontologists, etc are all in on the conspiracy.
    Where did anyone mention conspiracy theories?

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you believe evolution happened and is happening? Do you think a higher power guides evolution or is it random?
    It is happening alright, but there has to be an intelligent, powerful force behind it.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    It is happening alright, but there has to be an intelligent, powerful force behind it.
    Do you mean a force that is "directing" evolution?

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Do you mean a force that is "directing" evolution?
    Yes, i suppose i do. An intelligent being in other words.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillon View Post
    Yes, i suppose i do. An intelligent being in other words.
    Demand proof for such a claim.

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