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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

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  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

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  • There is not enough information to know for sure

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  • No, evolutuon does not happen

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This... yes.

    I am often ridiculed for believing in God, yet when I question them about how we, life, the earth, the moon, and everything came to be, they are left silent.
    We actually have pretty good ideas on all those. However, that has jack **** to do with evolution. This does seem to be a pattern here.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I do take them with a grain of salt.

    I'm being figurative with "they are left silent". Means they have no concrete reasoning. An example would be me asking you how we, life, earth, and moon came to be.
    The theories on all of those are based on concrete reasoning and examination of the evidence. The fact you are ignorant of those theories does not change the fact that they do exist and in some cases are fairly robust.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Science hasn't explained how life "came to be". If science can't pinpoint how, then why should I care for their suppositions about evolution?
    I understand that you wrote this before my last reply to you, but I would just like to point out that yes, it has come up with potential explanations for how life may have arisen.

    But the greater point is, if you think that science can't explain one thing, so therefore it somehow justifies you ignoring everything else that science has attempted to explain, then that really only leads you on a path towards ignorance.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The theories on all of those are based on concrete reasoning and examination of the evidence. The fact you are ignorant of those theories does not change the fact that they do exist and in some cases are fairly robust.
    but scientists are just guessing. its only a theory. it could be wrong! you just have faith in science and i have faith in god!

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Crack open a biology or astronomy textbook. For scientific theories that are just theories and remain unproven, I take everything I read with a grain of salt, but to say that "they are left silent" means either that you're talking to idiots, or that you're being dishonest. There are scientific explanations out there for how all of these things came into being. Please do a little of your own research.
    I think you are being dishonest if you assume or submit that MOST that believe in evolution are learned folk. Some? Sure...even many. But all? Heck...follow this thread and it is easy to see that many have their own 'belief' in science...and thats all good...really. But if you cant explain the existence of all matter you are left with "I believe...because...I think...and...Im not really sure...and I dont really know..." The origins of a mere cup of dirt defies our accumulated 'knowledge'. Lots of theory tho...

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The theories on all of those are based on concrete reasoning and examination of the evidence. The fact you are ignorant of those theories does not change the fact that they do exist and in some cases are fairly robust.
    No doubt. For some. Othersare just as blind and moronic about their belief in 'science' as the religious folk they hold in such low regard.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No doubt. For some. Othersare just as blind and moronic about their belief in 'science' as the religious folk they hold in such low regard.
    That is a separate discussion, but the two are based around different ideas. Science is based on analyzing observations. Religion is designed around faith. If a theory is based around faith and not observation, then it is not scientific.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Damn it, we need a time machine.
    We dont 'need' to know. We just need to pursue knowledge.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is a separate discussion, but the two are based around different ideas. Science is based on analyzing observations. Religion is designed around faith. If a theory is based around faith and not observation, then it is not scientific.
    You get that I'm agreeing with you, right? I suspect most folk here that would argue the science based model have fairly sound reasoning for their 'belief'. At the end of the day...its still a belief.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You get that I'm agreeing with you, right? I suspect most folk here that would argue the science based model have fairly sound reasoning for their 'belief'. At the end of the day...its still a belief.
    and some people care whether their beliefs are true. there are ways to do that such as with reason and evidence.

    do you care whether your beliefs about evolution are true? how do you justify them?
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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