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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

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  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

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  • There is not enough information to know for sure

    7 7.69%
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What's more likely? Something like us shot some RNA at who knows how many possibly inhabitable planets (intentionally or not)... or... life spontaneously appeared here. Further, I propose that Pluto is a life-raft. To far, Venus is consumed by greenhouse gasses and Mars is next up to bat. It doesn't take a genius to think that maybe stuff is moving around and not just suddenly appearing right here or all over the place. Evolution itself sets the example, there are three options: Evolve, Go Extinct or Move. Perhaps those options are not mutually exclusive.
    As I said, this is complete Nonsense speak.
    It just kicks the can down the road.
    How did THEY, The 'Planters', "Someone like us", come to Life?
    Where did Their "RNA" come from?

    "Pluto is a Life-raft"?

    (I am not allowed to adequately characterize your 'reasoning' here.)
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    Re: Evolution

    I am not allowed to adequately characterize your 'reasoning' here.
    Bring it downstairs, bigboy. You can say wtf you want there. Start a thread in my name or stfu about your "reasoning". I've an MSc in Env. Science and a PhD in Ecology, Mr. Science.

    I'm waiting for you. /basement
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-19-11 at 05:21 PM.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Bring it downstairs, bigboy. You can say wtf you want there. Start a thread in my name or stfu about your "reasoning".
    I am not into "bringing it downstairs".. yet. Very Rarely do.
    Let's see you defend your Unbelievably weak BS here, in front of all concerned.

    Perhaps now your understand, after 2 of my posts and 1 of Paschendale's, the folly of your Nonsensical put-it-off theory and have No answer.
    No "up here" answer that is.

    Again:
    How did THEY, The 'Planters', "Someone like us", come to Life?
    Where did Their "RNA" come from?
    (That they then "shot it" around the Universe.)
    Yours, really just a Funny variant creationist theory.
    Last edited by mbig; 08-19-11 at 05:45 PM.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You cannot demonstrate abiogenesis. I can demonstrate that evolution involves moving and that stuff moves around. Your evidence is crap; mine is logical. Try to prove logically that stuff just magically poofed up here.
    The article I linked WAS a demonstration of abiogenesis!
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    Re: Evolution

    Hoyle was one of the big beasts in science at the time. He coined the term "Big Bang" as a sneering reference, which rebounded on him.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    ok, I was just trying to make sense of your post and figure out where your erroneous conclusions stemmed from. lets revisit them. I agree with your summation, macroevolution is basically evolutionary changes at or above the species level, while micro occurs without genetic isolation.

    lets revisit your previous post


    genetic isolation is a key point to the macro evolution definition, this is typically due to two divergent lines no longer being able to reproduce. Changes in isolated genes would be unique to that isolated population. This contradicts your "the entire species would have evolved on similar paths" part. When a population is isolated ti then goes on its own path due to its isolated mutations and isolated selective pressures.

    In light of genetic isolation why would there be a repeat of accumulated mutations that occurred in a separate line to emerge yet again, especially when the occurrence of mutations part is random? There would be new mutations to select from, and new selective pressures working on them, all of this adds up to an emergence of something that would NOT be human since they would have taken an entirely different path due to the isolation of their genes and the circumstances.

    New races of humans evolving out of primates is not what the theory of evolution would predict would happen. If that were to happen it would contradict the fundamentals of the process as we know it - what you are describing is not in any way congruent with the theory of evolution.
    Geographic isolation can not explain why humans and other primates evolved from the same species or how humans evolved from the current set of primates. Evolution is a slow, slow process. As the theory goes, a gene mutation occurs and is then passed down from generation to generation until it consumes the entire species. As such, if humans began to evolve from primates, their genetic similarities would allow them to still mate and the genetics of primates or the genetics of humans would have become the primary makeup. In other words, if primates and humans lived in the same geographic regions (and as far as I know, they always have) then either the primates or the humans would have evolved into the same species. Since geographic isolation cannot account for the diverging genetic lines, the only logical conclusion is that humans and primates did not evolve from the same species.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Try to prove logically that stuff just magically poofed up here.
    This comment shows that you are ignorant of what abiogenisis is. Nothing about it implies that stuff "magically poofed up". In fact, your comments also demonstrate a distinct ignorance of what "logical" means.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I am not into "bringing it downstairs".. yet. Very Rarely do.
    Let's see you defend your Unbelievably weak BS here, in front of all concerned.
    Well, you sure like to talk sht upstairs. I'll accept your concession on the personal challenge you iniated.

    Yours, really just a Funny variant creationist theory.
    I'm an atheist and a scientist. I'll presume your qualifications remain in the realm of "for all to see" or "kid".



    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The article I linked WAS a demonstration of abiogenesis!
    Without bothering to look at your impressive "link", I will call BS. Demonstrating abiogenesis would be like demonstrating cold fusion or a cure for cancer, and there is no way I'd miss such a thing.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-19-11 at 05:53 PM.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, you sure like to talk sht upstairs. I'll accept your concession on the personal challenge you iniated.
    Sorry. Not letting you out of the debate Here. Upstairs. Too bad huh.

    I'm an atheist and a scientist. I'll presume your qualifications remain in the realm of "for all to see" or "kid".
    A "Gods must be crazy".. "scientist"?
    Your theory is indeed/Ironically a "Dropped-from-space-Coke-Bottle" joke.

    And again/Twice Now your reply DISHONESTLY drops the Meat of my post:
    Yes, the second time BOLDED:
    Quote Originally Posted by me TWICE and left off/not quoted by ecofarm
    Again:
    How did THEY, The 'Planters', "Someone like us", come to Life?
    Where did Their "RNA" come from? (That they then "shot it" around the Universe.)
    ...
    This is DESPICABLE and LOST posting tactics.
    Truncating an opponents quotes, especially leaving off the Bolded Gist you Can't handle. Twice.

    As well as Leaving off from my last:
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    "..Perhaps now your understand, after 2 of my posts and 1 of Paschendale's, the folly of your Nonsensical put-it-off theory and have No answer....
    Last edited by mbig; 08-19-11 at 06:21 PM.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Without bothering to look at your impressive "link", I will call BS. Demonstrating abiogenesis would be like demonstrating cold fusion or a cure for cancer, and there is no way I'd miss such a thing.
    Apparently you're a very bad scientist, then. The first experiment that showed abiogenesis working, in a limited form, took place in 1952. This newer one in 2008 was even more promising. Seriously, what kind of idiot just sticks their fingers in their ears like this?
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