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  • Evolution happens, and it is random

    65 71.43%
  • Evolution happens and is guided by a higher power

    10 10.99%
  • There is not enough information to know for sure

    7 7.69%
  • No, evolutuon does not happen

    5 5.49%
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ...is not hard evidence that a fish (maybe you don't know that a whale is not a fish) ever evolved into a reptile...
    I believe the current thoughts about the chain of evolution is that fish evolved into amphibians and then to reptiles, so it's going to be very difficult to show evidence that "a fish ever evolved into a reptile".
    Last edited by Tucker Case; 08-19-11 at 01:42 PM.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I believe the current thoughts about the chain of evolution is that fish evolved into amphibians and then to reptiles, so it's going to be very difficult to show evidence that "a fish ever evolved into a reptile".
    current thoughts....where's the hard evidence? convince me

    so where's the hard evidence that a fish evolved into an amphibian or a reptile evolved into a mammal or a dinosaur evolved into a bird?

    and WTF did the marsupials evolve from?
    Last edited by OscarB63; 08-19-11 at 01:48 PM.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    current thoughts....where's the hard evidence?
    The fossils of the following transitional genuses: Tiktaalik, Ventastega, Acanthostega, Ichthyostega, when taken together, provide fairly compelling evidence of evolution from fish to amphibians. Whether you wish to consider this "hard evidence" or not is up to you. In my experience, most people who ask for "hard evidence" are really just looking for excuses to to ignore all of the evidence in order to promote something that has no evidence supporting it.

    I should also add that when I say "Fish" and "amphibians" I am being very general about it, as these are general terms describing a great many classes of animals, and some of those classes are now extinct.

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    Why would I want to convince you? you are free to believe whatever you want to believe.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The fossils of the following transitional genuses: Tiktaalik, Ventastega, Acanthostega, Ichthyostega, when taken together, provide fairly compelling evidence of evolution from fish to amphibians. Whether you wish to consider this "hard evidence" or not is up to you. In my experience, most people who ask for "hard evidence" are really just looking for excuses to to ignore all of the evidence in order to promote something that has no evidence supporting it.

    I should also add that when I say "Fish" and "amphibians" I am being very general about it, as these are general terms describing a great many classes of animals, and some of those classes are now extinct.



    Why would I want to convince you? you are free to believe whatever you want to believe.
    I'm not trying to promote anything....
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    No, geographic isolation explains why we have different races, but not why part of the species evolved and part did not. If macro evolution where true, then the entire species would have evolved on similar paths rather than some evolving and some not. Further, if macro evolution where true, new races of humans would be evolving from primates today. They are not.
    how do you know? evolution doesn't happen in a century, or even 2,000 years. that argument doesn't hold water, imo.

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I put I dont know...because no one can tell me how the VERY first life organism got here and I havent seen Jesus yet...so I just dont now...and neither do any you :P
    Volcanic lightning may have sparked life on Earth - environment - 16 October 2008 - New Scientist

    How 'bout like this?

    They've been able to make amino acids from inorganic materials since the 1950's, and these experiments could very well have simulated actual abiogenesis. The conditions simulated in the experiment were incredibly common on Earth for more than a billion years.
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    Re: Evolution

    How 'bout like this?
    I find planting much more likely. It was something when we figured we're not the center of the universe. Figuring we are not the source of life might be similar. Sending RNA to prospective planets seems more likely than abiogenisis here, and now. We're not the center of the universe or the source of life; deal with it; let's go looksee.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'm not trying to promote anything....
    Then what are you doing? Are you simply looking to be convinced by someone else that evolution is real?

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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Volcanic lightning may have sparked life on Earth - environment - 16 October 2008 - New Scientist

    How 'bout like this?

    They've been able to make amino acids from inorganic materials since the 1950's, and these experiments could very well have simulated actual abiogenesis. The conditions simulated in the experiment were incredibly common on Earth for more than a billion years.
    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm
    I find planting much more likely. It was something when we figured we're not the center of the universe. Figuring we are not the source of life might be similar. Sending RNA to prospective planets seems more likely than abiogenisis here, and now. We're not the center of the universe or the source of life; deal with it; let's go looksee.
    Why would 'Planting' be "more likely"?

    And this oft seen rationale is Useless as an explanation. It just kicks the proverbial can down the road.
    Always amazed some people are satisfied with that empty write-off.

    Paschendale's post at least sets a reasonable hypothetical sequence.
    Last edited by mbig; 08-19-11 at 04:25 PM.
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    Re: Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Why would 'Planting' be "more likely"?
    What's more likely? Something like us shot some RNA at who knows how many possibly inhabitable planets (intentionally or not)... or... life spontaneously appeared here. Further, I propose that Pluto is a life-raft. To far, Venus is consumed by greenhouse gasses and Mars is next up to bat. It doesn't take a genius to think that maybe stuff is moving around and not just suddenly appearing right here or all over the place. Evolution itself sets the example, there are three options: Evolve, Go Extinct or Move. Perhaps those options are not mutually exclusive.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 08-19-11 at 04:45 PM.

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