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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Is this a joke of a question?


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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I must say that I enjoy watching Riverdad slap some folks around with the statistics. As far as things I don't care about, yeah Catawba...most of what you just listed. Also, HS drop-out rate. You're blaming a state on a reflection of society? If someone is going to drop out, I'd wager that their address is going to have less to do with it than their upbringing and general state of affairs - neither of which you can blame on the address.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    ..Texas outperforms the nation in all instances and basically mirrors Wisconsin's drop-out rate except for Wisconsin's glaring trouble with its African-American students, who have a drop-out rate that is higher than the national mean.
    centuries of slavery & segregation can have such long-lasting tragic results.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You're from Wisconsin, so let's compare Texas to Wisconsin on educational outcomes:

    2009 4th Grade Math

    White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
    Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
    Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

    2009 8th Grade Math

    White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
    Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
    Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

    2009 4th Grade Reading

    White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
    Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
    Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

    2009 8th Grade Reading

    White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
    Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
    Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

    2009 4th Grade Science

    White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
    Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
    Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

    2009 8th Grade Science

    White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
    Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
    Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

    On every single metric, Texas outperforms the nation. On every single metric but one, Hispanic student 4th grade science education, Texas outperforms Wisconsin.

    You wouldn't happen to be a Wisconsin unionized teacher would you? Making bold-faced assertions that directly contravene the evidence is something that teachers are known to do.
    No sir. I am from Texas. I'm Texas born, Texas bred and when I die I will be Texas dead, laid to rest in my family cemetary dating back to the early 1800's in deep East Texas. I currently reside in Wisconsin but make no claim to citizenship here. I'm just passin' thru.

    I know first hand the ****-shape Texas is in and it does my heart no good having to point it out.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    No sir. I am from Texas. I'm Texas born, Texas bred and when I die I will be Texas dead, laid to rest in my family cemetary dating back to the early 1800's in deep East Texas. I currently reside in Wisconsin but make no claim to citizenship here. I'm just passin' thru.

    I know first hand the ****-shape Texas is in and it does my heart no good having to point it out.
    What falls out from your assessment is that if Texas is in ****-shape, and it beats the national mean, then the rest of America is worse off than Texas.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Texas has seen better days. But I can't help but love the place anyways. It's who I am and where I was born and raised.

    But back to topic, Perry is pretty much considered a joke anywhere but Texas. I don't think the GOP will seriously run him for president.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    If Obama continues do the wrong thing and not learn from his mistakes and keep going down in the polls a dead hamster could beat Obama.
    Funny that those on the right keep saying that.....problem is.....the GOP doesn't even have a dead hamster to offer up yet.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Texas has seen better days. But I can't help but love the place anyways. It's who I am and where I was born and raised.

    But back to topic, Perry is pretty much considered a joke anywhere but Texas. I don't think the GOP will seriously run him for president.
    He's pretty much considered a joke in Texas. He didn't even win a majority vote...and he loses Texas to Obama in a head to head match up.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I must say that I enjoy watching Riverdad slap some folks around with the statistics. As far as things I don't care about, yeah Catawba...most of what you just listed. Also, HS drop-out rate. You're blaming a state on a reflection of society? If someone is going to drop out, I'd wager that their address is going to have less to do with it than their upbringing and general state of affairs - neither of which you can blame on the address.
    You can choose to ignore that Texas is doing much poorer than the national average in many important areas, if you wish. If you do not care about public health, education, and the environment, what do you care about?
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    He's pretty much considered a joke in Texas. He didn't even win a majority vote...and he loses Texas to Obama in a head to head match up.
    Seriously? I didn't realize there were that many people in Texas who actually thought things through. They must be transplants from other states.

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