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    37 36.27%
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I don't like either one of them. Bachman is smart, but she and Perry with that old-time religion don't get it for me. I like Romney, but he's got to keep his religion under wraps.
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's funny that many are saying Perry is "too rightwing" to win the election yet ignore the fact that Obama was one of the most liberal Senators Obama's approval ratings are falling, the economy is still in the dumps, and almost everything Obama tried to do to fix things failed miserably and only hurt the country in the long run (the healthcare bill, the stimulus).
    The only people that care about voting records are hardcore partisans to begin with. What matters to the majority of the voters that are actually up for grabs in a national election is tone and demeanor. Obama may have had one of the most liberal voting records, but he was very measured and moderate in his rhetoric. Even the conservative icon Ronald Reagan was quite measured in his rhetoric. Goldwater and Reagan were fairly close to each other in terms of their ideology. In terms of their public demeanor and rhetoric, they could not have been further apart. This resulted in Reagan winning by a landslide and Goldwater losing by a landslide. Fiery and extremist rhetoric may rally the absolute core base of a party, but it scares the hell out of moderates and independents. The problem with Bachmann and Perry is not so much their conservative ideology (however, on social issues that is a problem), its the loony things both of them have said and continue to say publicly.
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Still way to early to tell. I'd give Obama a slight lead over Perry and I believe that race would fall along the lines of who runs their campaign better and has a better get out the vote initiative, campaigns in the right states etc. but I think with Bachman the only way Obama could lose is if we started massive rounds of layoffs across the country all over again or something similar to that. Even though the economy is anemic right now, it's not losing any blood, so a very well spoken and kind of straight forward campaigner like Perry might have a decent chance but Bachman would need a miracle.
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    We need to establish a sarcasm font.

    I think Perry stands a great chance of beating Obama. The proof is that Texas is one of the least hurt states in the nation with these policies. From an executive standpoint, his track record is showing that he's done a great job.
    You are right, we do need a sarcasm font. How about this:

    "The proof is that Texas is one of the least hurt states in the nation with these policies. From an executive standpoint, his track record is showing that he's done a great job."

    Texas has the highest number of people without health insurance, has one of the highest poverty rates, is one of the most polluting states, and puts more people to death than any other state.

    Yeah, I wants me some of that! LOL!
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Yet another poll question by a person who leaves out of the choices the only obvious answer. I hope you guys eventually learn to write a poll question correctly.
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    standpoint, his track record is showing that he's done a great job."[/FONT]

    Texas has the highest number of people without health insurance, has one of the highest poverty rates, is one of the most polluting states, and puts more people to death than any other state.

    Yeah, I wants me some of that! LOL
    There are people who definitely deserve the death penalty as there is no worth in keeping them alive.

    Unfortunately Texas has killed far too many innocent people. They have totally abused that judical system. This results in costly lawsuits against the state while the real criminal is allowed to commit crime after crime. Yes, lets hear him brag about that.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    if the election was held today, Obama would beat them both.

    Neither Bachmann nor Perry have enough ammo to beat Obama. They need him to make a MAJOR slip up or they need to have a major success.

    but right now, things being as they are, Obama would pounce them both.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    If Obama continues do the wrong thing and not learn from his mistakes and keep going down in the polls a dead hamster could beat Obama.
    a dead hampster could win the GOP nomination, so you may get your wish.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    Texas has the highest number of people without health insurance, has one of the highest poverty rates, is one of the most polluting states, and puts more people to death than any other state.
    And these figures are per capita? I'd like to see your source.

    Besides, 3 of the 4 things you just listed are politicking at its finest. It's of no real concern. Whether someone else is insured or not is not my fault, nor is it my concern. What Texas does to its criminals is even less of my concern.

    Wish these points were the worst that any state had to deal with. We'd be in great shape.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I think it goes something like this.

    • The economy improves even slightly before elections: Obama beats Romney, Perry or Bachmann
    • The economy stays the same- meaning no growth between now and election. Even lackluster growth means we are in the first bucket not this one: Romney beats Obama, Obama beats Perry and Bachmann
    • The economy goes into the second dip of a recession as bad as the last one: Obama beats Bachmann, but loses if it is Perry or Romney
    • Satan himself rises from hell stalking from town to town eating all the children and photographs are released by the whitehouse confirming that he rose as a direct result of Satanic rituals Obama presided over in the oval office and Obama focuses the remainder of his campaign on a pro-Satan-eating-children message: Obama still beats Bachmann, but loses if it is Perry or Romney
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