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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Perry will leave Bachmann in the dust when he starts campaigning.
    Bachmann suffers from being the understudy to Palin and Perry suffers from being the understudy of Bush. Fair or not, the association is there.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I think Perry could have a shot. Not a good one in my mind at the moment, but things can change in more than a year. However I do think he'd have the possability of beating Obama.

    I think there's little to no chance Bachmann could.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think Perry could have a shot. Not a good one in my mind at the moment, but things can change in more than a year. However I do think he'd have the possability of beating Obama.

    I think there's little to no chance Bachmann could.

    Theres a big country out there aside from texas and iowa....wearing his religion on his sleeve will not play well with the whole country....being a flipper doesnt help either...I dont think his chances are as great as some believe...Bachman hasnt much chance at all...even some republicans think shes nuts

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    It's not so much that I think she's nuts (she's not totally sane either), but she severely lacks experience.

    Then again, a president currently sits who revokes the myth that the presidency requires a resume. I just think that America learned not to elect a president with about 17 minutes of Congressional experience like Obama.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not so much that I think she's nuts (she's not totally sane either), but she severely lacks experience.

    Then again, a president currently sits who revokes the myth that the presidency requires a resume. I just think that America learned not to elect a president with about 17 minutes of Congressional experience like Obama.
    Seriously, how much experience is needed?

    If the opponent has little political experience one capitalizes on it, if the opponent has too much political experience one capitalizes on it referring them to having spent too much time in Washington.

    The voters become like Goldilocks looking for that perfect feeling bed. Then to make it even harder to differentiate between the candidate you have to realize they will say anything to get your vote.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    If Obama continues do the wrong thing and not learn from his mistakes and keep going down in the polls a dead hamster could beat Obama.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck
    Seriously, how much experience is needed?

    If the opponent has little political experience one capitalizes on it, if the opponent has too much political experience one capitalizes on it referring them to having spent too much time in Washington.

    The voters become like Goldilocks looking for that perfect feeling bed. Then to make it even harder to differentiate between the candidate you have to realize they will say anything to get your vote.
    There's no such thing as "too much experience" in my book.

    The phrase "career politician" gets thrown around a lot, and I don't get its negative connotation. People who serve office that long tend to be a) good at their jobs, b) loved by their constituants, and c) aware of the intricacies involved in serving office. How is this bad?

    People don't run for office for the money. The overwhelming vast majority of elected officials, most of which have law degrees it seems, would be much better off financially if they worked in the private sector.

    So yeah, give me the 7-term Senator every day of the week.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    Bachman does not stand a chance against Obama. Perry doesn't stand much of a chance either. The economy in Texas he promotes so much is a little better than the average state right now, but I believe its unemployment rate is higher than all of its neighboring states. So on closer scrutiny, its not going to sell that well. Moreover, most of the jobs created there are lower paying jobs and are more due to population growth and oil than anything else. My wife is from Texas, there is some money there in the big cities like Dallas, Austin, and Houston, but much of the state is very, very poor. Get outside of the major metro's and most of the state looks just as poor as the Mississippi delta. His problem is that he has made so many "Bachman-esqe" loony statements and positions in the past that he is a walking negative ad.

    That said, given the state of the economy, I think that winning the presidency would be a cakewalk for Romney should he get the nomination (and he probably will). There is some talk that Paul Ryan may jump into the race, and assuming he was a good fundraiser, I think he could win as well. Chris Christie could win if he was not so morbidly obese (we don't elect extremely fat presidents in this country - or at least haven't in the last 100 years or so). Huntsman would have strong appeal among independents and moderates, but I don't think he has much of a chance with the Republican base.
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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I'm not sure about that. I've noticed a major demographic shift in Republicans, mostly to a state that puts them on the fringe of moderate/independent. Let's face it - the Bible Belt will vote Republican no matter what. Bunch of confused elders down here that just look at the R and the D when they put down the check. It's usually capturing the moderates that decides it. It's always been that way for the Democrats (minus Obama), but it's about to be that way for the GOP as well. Clinton was a moderate, and at the time Gore was too. If they had been far left, Clinton would've lost the plurality vote IMO.

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    Re: Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

    I think it's funny that many are saying Perry is "too rightwing" to win the election yet ignore the fact that Obama was one of the most liberal Senators Obama's approval ratings are falling, the economy is still in the dumps, and almost everything Obama tried to do to fix things failed miserably and only hurt the country in the long run (the healthcare bill, the stimulus).
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