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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Ooo...poor word choice.
    Lol i didnt even see your post and i thought the same thing. And im not even big on the whole political correctness thing.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    OOOOOooo you could of said that a little nicer. Kinda sounds a little racist by generalizing high LSAT scores as a measure of reaching "upper realm of intelligence". More like there just not that many black students that make it the highest percentages of the LSAT scores... for inconclusive reasons. (Your not racist imo, but that even sounded sketchy to me.)
    That's pretty much my point. Equating intelligence with LSAT scores in general isn't an accurate move.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    OOOOOooo you could of said that a little nicer. Kinda sounds a little racist by generalizing high LSAT scores as a measure of reaching "upper realm of intelligence". More like there just not that many black students that make it the highest percentages of the LSAT scores... for inconclusive reasons. (Your not racist imo, but that even sounded sketchy to me.)
    I stand by the statement for it is one of the most widely studied and most widely replicated findings in social science. The intelligence disparity is robust and the variance increases as we climb the IQ ladder. LSATs are a pretty good proxy for intelligence.

    Only creationists are upset by reality.

    Saying things "nicer" comes across as code for "not telling the truth." That's not my style.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I stand by the statement for it is one of the most widely studied and most widely replicated findings in social science. The intelligence disparity is robust and the variance increases as we climb the IQ ladder. LSATs are a pretty good proxy for intelligence.

    Only creationists are upset by reality.

    Saying things "nicer" comes across as code for "not telling the truth." That's not my style.
    Alight, then you meant precisely what you said... i was making sure.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Alight, then you meant precisely what you said... i was making sure.
    Were you seriously putting forth the hypothesis that those who scored higher on the LSAT were not measurably different in intelligence from those who scored lower and that those who scored in the highest percentiles were no different in terms of intelligence range than those who scored abysmally? Really? Is that what you were proposing?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I stand by the statement for it is one of the most widely studied and most widely replicated findings in social science. The intelligence disparity is robust and the variance increases as we climb the IQ ladder. LSATs are a pretty good proxy for intelligence.

    Only creationists are upset by reality.

    Saying things "nicer" comes across as code for "not telling the truth." That's not my style.
    Actually, a lot of people are upset by reality, no need to generalize...oh wait, that's what you do.

    Fact is, standardized tests from the LSAT to regular old IQ tests are the subject of a long standing debate of how well they measure "intelligence", a word whose meaning is itself debated. Of course, the LSAT measures certain aspects and types of intelligence, but it certainly does not measure other aspects as many successful people and social scientists could probably tell you.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Actually, a lot of people are upset by reality, no need to generalize...oh wait, that's what you do.

    Fact is, standardized tests from the LSAT to regular old IQ tests are the subject of a long standing debate of how well they measure "intelligence", a word whose meaning is itself debated. Of course, the LSAT measures certain aspects and types of intelligence, but it certainly does not measure other aspects as many successful people and social scientists could probably tell you.
    Ahh.. so is this where you bring up how standardized tests are racist? Say it isn't so...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Were you seriously putting forth the hypothesis that those who scored higher on the LSAT were not measurably different in intelligence from those who scored lower and that those who scored in the highest percentiles were no different in terms of intelligence range than those who scored abysmally? Really? Is that what you were proposing?
    Having gone to a top 10 college and good private schools my entire life. I can tell you that many intelligent people are poor test takers and many not so intelligent people are good test takers. (Of course, intelligence is subjective though). I did both good and bad on tests from year to year. I would say standardized tests measure certain types of skills including patience - which I was lacking when I did worse.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Ahh.. so is this where you bring up how standardized tests are racist? Say it isn't so...
    How can a test be racist? Explain please.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    How can a test be racist? Explain please.
    Someone already did it for me....

    Standardized tests and accusations of racism - Denver school improvement | Examiner.com
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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