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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I didn't say he was stupid but I don't hold the view that being credentialed, necessarily makes someone smart.
    I don't hold that view either. I do, however, hold the view that a certain level and type of "credentials" is evidence of intelligence. If he had these credentials, but got poor reviews and was never offered tenure, then I'd be more inclined to say that his credentials may not be evidence of intelligence.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    I'm just saying that student reviews may not necessarily be based on values that matter. For example, "great" may translate to "easy A" or "entertaining."

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not really.
    Academic smarts can sometimes shroud a true dumbass, I've known many.
    Actual smart. The ability to analyze information. You may disagree with somebody politically or whatever, but how smart they are is definitely still measurable, and somebody who is a law professor at the U of Chicago is ridiculously smart. Just to attend the U of Chicago Law School you need to be approaching genius IQ. To be a professor there you need to be one step ahead of all your students all the time. And out of all the law schools out there, Chicago is generally seen as the most rigorous, no-bs, kind of a school. Very analytical, a lot of economics, etc.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The average LSAT score at Harvard Law equates to an IQ of 141. So, a distinct step above your highest score and yes, 141 is in the genius range. And that's just the average. He came out magna cum laude, so he beat out most the students there, meaning his score was likely above average for Harvard Law.
    It means no such thing. Obama is black, which means that he qualified for admission under very relaxed standards. Obama didn't make honor roll at Columbia during his undergraduate education. His grades certainly weren't the factor that got him into Harvard Law.

    When Obama was in law school, Latin Honors were extended to the top 76% of graduates. It's entirely possible to chart a course through law school, after first year requirements, which loads up on "fluff" courses loaded with race issues and which are notorious for their easy grading compared to more intellectually challenging classes found in fields like patent law or securities law.

    Until we saw Obama's transcripts so that we can determine the intellectual challenge of the classes he took, his Magna latin honor doesn't tell us jack about his placement in relation to others in his graduating class.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You slinging the "white supremacist" charge is like a monkey flinging its own poo.

    The facts are that it is unheard of for a candidate applying to be a professor at law schools, never mind top law schools, to even be considered for the position without having a publication record of some kind, without having achievements of some kind, and Obama had nothing - he had no publications, he had no career achievements. He was black. University of Chicago Law School had an embarrassing shortage of black law school faculty.

    UC had stacks of resumes of better qualified candidates but they weren't black. Why would a top tier law school choose to ignore better qualified applicants and instead decide to hire a man who had no qualifications for the job other than being a law school graduate who got press because he was a black man elected to the position of President of Harvard Law Review.

    Simply put, his hiring at UC was just another affirmative action boost for Obama.
    You can't complain about being accused of spreading white supremacist rhetoric at the start of your post then go on to blurt out a bunch more white supremacist rhetoric in the rest of your post...

    Surely there is some way you can feel ok about yourself without trying to hurt others for no reason, isn't there?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Actual smart. The ability to analyze information. You may disagree with somebody politically or whatever, but how smart they are is definitely still measurable, and somebody who is a law professor at the U of Chicago is ridiculously smart. Just to attend the U of Chicago Law School you need to be approaching genius IQ. To be a professor there you need to be one step ahead of all your students all the time. And out of all the law schools out there, Chicago is generally seen as the most rigorous, no-bs, kind of a school. Very analytical, a lot of economics, etc.
    I understand that, but having all the information and having no understanding of practical application, tends to offer me a picture in the opposite direction.

    Name dropping school X,Y, or Z does not change my view on this.
    Again, though I didn't say PBO was dumb, unintelligent, etc.
    I said the contrary.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    I don't think he is any smarter then me, Ill call it even, but he's definitely not stupid... definitely misled and a little arrogant, but not stupid.

    What he does have over most of us... is that he is extremely more ambitious... and i am a lazy Physics student.
    Last edited by celticwar17; 08-14-11 at 06:10 PM.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    When your in a thread its always a rich whining about everything and everyone else...

    Did you work in a shipyard ? were you in the navy ? did you work around asbestos ? Call us NOW you may be entitled to money...I sure hope you have mesothelioma so I can get another 10grand off this class action lawsuit ive had going on for over 20 yrs...AHHH AMERICA is such a good country...
    Theres tons of rich lawyers with no scruples sucking the lifeblood out of the country out of greed....but of course you would never acknowledge that lol
    Your fixation with attorneys is pathetic but have you ever said what you do other than admitting to being a trade school enlistee?



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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm just saying that student reviews may not necessarily be based on values that matter. For example, "great" may translate to "easy A" or "entertaining."
    And I'm saying that that doesn't really apply to UChicago. Bogus reviews for things like "easy A" and "entertaining" don't really happen. If he got generally good reviews for 12 years, I'm confident in saying that he was a smart, intellectual and challenging professor. Those are the standards by which Chicago hires teachers and by which students evaluate them.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Your fixation with attorneys is pathetic but have you ever said what you do other than admitting to being a trade school enlistee?
    I dunno man, one of the most intelligent people I know, never went to university/trade school.
    He is the head mechanic (and the best) at my plant, he learned everything from doing.
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