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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    of course it does, it tells blacks that they can't compete with whites without special consideration....
    this is of course a lie.

    affirmative action does not tell anyone that blacks are inferior. of course, if that is the racist meaning you get out of it, this is yours to deal with.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    If you say so. I work in a liberal-saturated environment and I'm pretty certain that if I laid out your program to those of my acquaintance that they'd all be aghast at a program which resulted in a widening of the achievement gap and a widening of income inequality gap between races even though it made the lives of all parties incrementally better.

    Look at what's happening on the income inequality front. Liberals are blowing steam out of their ears about the RELATIVE increase in income inequality and they are not mollified by the ABSOLUTE increase in living standards that accumulate to the poor.

    Why should I expect a different reaction to your scheme when I see with my own eyes the reaction that I detail taking place on a similar issue?

    You're crafting a romanticized vision of liberals, one where they are thoughtful and rational. You have no evidence to back up that portrait. I've never heard of a liberal politician ever declaring that it was time to end a social program. Liberals love big, activist government. More programs means they have more opportunity to meddle.

    Look at how affirmative action has changed and expanded over the years. It now includes all sorts of minority groups in its mandate.
    Every liberal I know personally and have spoken to about it, believes a program like this, carefully planned and properly implemented, is worth the gamble. All agree that if we made this a national goal, it would change everything for the better, even if in the end it turned out to prove things that put their own worldview at risk.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Content is gud. See above where?
    I don't know what gud means, but if you look next to your words, you'll find mine. Thanks.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think most of the honest people on this forum would agree that Obama is smarter. The more important question is whether Obama is smarter than those who have said they want to run against him, and I have not seen one come forward to date who is smarter than Obama IMO.
    It's not smartness that matters, it's leadership that matters.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    and for the record, I do NOT support blanket affirmative action in industries and companies that do NOT have a proven track-record of long-term discrimination.

    and I do NOT support affirmative action for blacks who are not descended from African-slaves.

    affirmative-action was created to right a HISTORIC wrong, known as slavery & segregation. only those who have actually suffered from such institutions should profit from the remedy created for it.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    which "myth",
    The myth that evolution has produced a uniform result for all of humanity but has gone wild in producing variance on every other trait that defines humanity. Something magic stopped evolution from touching the human brain. The Chinese, not burdened with the same flavor of oppressive political correctness and liberal myth holding are blazing forward on the basis of believing that evolution hasn't spared homo sapiens.

    The first brain bank specialising in the study of Chinese brains is to be established.

    Researchers in Hong Kong and China hope to persuade Chinese people to donate their grey matter to medical science.

    Brain banks in the West do not have an adequate supply of brain tissue from the Chinese to make research feasible.

    Hong Kong University says the project will help scientists to gain an understanding of the differences between the brains of different races.

    you show me IQ tests done on 10,000 middle-class Caucasoids compared to the IQ tests done on 10,000 middle-class Negros, and then we can chat.
    You see, you're even adopting the argumentative technique of your religious creationist counterparts. You specify a very specific condition that must be met before you will entertain the issue of questioning the myth that you adhere to. I've played whack a mole with religious creationists for a long time and I know their tricks. It's not surprising in the least that you're adopting their tactics.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and for the record, I do NOT support blanket affirmative action in industries and companies that do NOT have a proven track-record of long-term discrimination.

    and I do NOT support affirmative action for blacks who are not descended from African-slaves.

    affirmative-action was created to right a HISTORIC wrong, known as slavery & segregation. only those who have actually suffered from such institutions should profit from the remedy created for it.
    That version of affirmative action died in 1978 with the Bakke v. Univ. of Calif. decision. Who cares what you support? It's illegal right now.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It's not smartness that matters, it's leadership that matters.
    Leadership without "smartness" is not what I want in our country's Commander and Chief.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    ...You see, you're even adopting the argumentative technique of your religious creationist counterparts...

    ...I've played whack a mole with religious creationists for a long time and I know their tricks. It's not surprising in the least that you're adopting their tactics.

    are you familiar with the logical fallacy known as the ad hominem & guilt by association?
    Last edited by Thunder; 08-15-11 at 11:15 PM.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    are you familiar with the logical fallacy known as the ad hominem & guilt by association?
    Why yes I am. Are you trying to suggest something? If so, spell it out, because I haven't engaged in ad hominem attacks.

    Until you can tell me how you can reconcile a belief in evolution and a belief that some unspecified mysterious force put a forcefield around the human brain and prevented any variation from developing, you're no different than a religious creationist who believes that god is the mysterious force that made mankind in his image. You're not appealing to god, just to some similar mysterious force.

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