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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The Inconvenient Truth is now racism?...
    what "inconvenient truth"? that blacks are inherently inferior to white people?

    that's not truth..its just ignorant, illogical, & irrational racism.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You're pretty sure of that are you? On the basis of what? Your intuition? Your sense of how the world SHOULD operate?

    How about testing your hypothesis?

    The Kansas City Experiment:


    For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.

    Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.

    The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.

    The Kansas City experiment suggests that, indeed, educational problems can't be solved by throwing money at them, that the structural problems of our current educational system are far more important than a lack of material resources, and that the focus on desegregation diverted attention from the real problem, low achievement.

    The black-white IQ gap shows up by the age of 3. This isn't society causing the problem.
    You realize this has jack **** to do with what I said, right?
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You realize this has jack **** to do with what I said, right?
    I think that was his goal.
    Last edited by Thunder; 08-15-11 at 06:05 PM. Reason: think..not thank. :)

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The Inconvenient Truth is now racism? What did Al Gore call climate change skeptics? Oh yeah, deniers. Like Holocaust deniers. What should we call people who deny reality and fling about unsubstantiated charges of racism? How about liberals.
    you believe blacks are inferior to whites? how would one acquire a high verbal iq, i wonder?

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what "inconvenient truth"? that blacks are inherently inferior to white people?

    that's not truth..its just ignorant, illogical, & irrational racism.
    Numbers do not lie. This does not, however, result in implication of inferiority of a race. These results are primarily based on a lack of effort and proper training. Ultimately, this falls on the shoulders of parents. Your shadow follows you, but if you try to follow your shadow then you will get nowhere.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Numbers do not lie....
    put white people through 400 years of slavery and 100 years of segregation and see what their test scores look like.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's a problem of being poor, not of race.
    Really? Let's test your hypothesis:

    The Racial Gap in Academic Achievement

    by ABIGAIL THERNSTROM

    The SATs, too, paint a dismal picture. In 1995, black students from families in the top income bracketó$70,000 and upówere a shade behind whites from families earning less than $10,000 on the verbal assessment and significantly behind them in math.

    Your hypothesis is falsified.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Really? Let's test your hypothesis:

    The Racial Gap in Academic Achievement

    by ABIGAIL THERNSTROM

    The SATs, too, paint a dismal picture. In 1995, black students from families in the top income bracket—$70,000 and up—were a shade behind whites from families earning less than $10,000 on the verbal assessment and significantly behind them in math.

    Your hypothesis is falsified.
    And so their race made them score lower? Are you saying that black students are mentally inferior due to race?

    Personally I think it's due to culture and lifestyle, not race.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You realize this has jack **** to do with what I said, right?
    You claimed "Black kids don't get the education they need due to being poor and the results, "

    So, if my response has nothing to do with your claim, that is, if education funding, the quality of the teachers, the availability of resources within the school, are not what you're talking about, then your model must be putting a lot of weight on other factors associated with being poor causing the poor educational outcomes.

    What are these other factors associated with being poor? Spell them out and let's see if we can test the validity of your model.

    Upthread I've already dealt with the claim that it is a neighborhood effect.

    Looking forward to the details on your model.

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