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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    #1. NO African-Americans are 100% African. They all have some European and even some Native-American genetics.

    #2. Barack Obama is NOT African-American, as he is not the descendant of African slaves brought to America.

    ....so, how do we know the genes behind the African-American's poor IQ scores were not their white ones?
    did you just come up with your own definition of African-American?
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Wrong on all 3 points. 3 Strikes. Wow, that's impressive. Talking out of your ass is abo.....
    so much for taking this debate seriously & maturely.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    #1. NO African-Americans are 100% African. They all have some European and even some Native-American genetics.

    #2. Barack Obama is NOT African-American, as he is not the descendant of African slaves brought to America.
    Source?

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    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    did you just come up with your own definition of African-American?

    yup..looks like I did.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Source?

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    Some black scholars have argued that the term "African-American" should refer strictly to the descendents of West or Central African slaves and free people of color who survived the slavery-era, and not the sons and daughters of black immigrants who lack that ancestry.[151] The argument being that grouping all blacks together regardless of their unique ancestral circumstances would inevitably deny the lingering effects of slavery with in the American slave descendent community, in addition to denying black immigrants recognition of their own unique ancestral backgrounds.

    In the book The End of Blackness published by author Debra Dickerson, she warned against drawing favorable cultural implications from upwardly mobile black immigrants who are not the sons and daughters of American slavery and racial segregation. She used the political rise of President Barack Obama, who is the son of a Kenyan immigrant, a result of "Lumping us all together,"[152] Dickerson claimed it, "erases the significance of slavery and continuing racism while giving the appearance of progress." On the liberal website Salon Dickerson wrote, "African-American", in our political and social vocabulary, means those descended from West African slaves".

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    looks like I'm not alone in my view.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Wrong on all 3 points. 3 Strikes. Wow, that's impressive. Talking out of your ass is about as winning a strategy as the advice Dean Wormer gave Flounder:
    Actually, I'm perfectly correct on all three points:
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    With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, ... it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. [...] Given what we know about the capacity of normal humans to achieve and function within any culture, we conclude that present-day inequalities between so-called "racial" groups are not consequences of their biological inheritance but products of historical and contemporary social, economic, educational, and political circumstances.

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    Numerous definitions of and hypotheses about intelligence have been proposed since before the twentieth century, with no consensus reached by scholars. Within the discipline of psychology, various approaches to human intelligence have been adopted. The psychometric approach is especially familiar to the general public, as well as being the most researched and by far the most widely used in practical settings.[1]

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    The official position of the American Anthropological Association is that intelligence cannot be biologically determined by race.[2] The American Psychological Association has said that while there are differences in average IQ between racial groups, and there is no conclusive evidence for environmental explanations, there is even less empirical support for a genetic interpretation, and no adequate explanation for the racial IQ gap is presently available.[3][4] According to a 1996 statement from the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, although heredity influences behavior in individuals, it does not affect the ability of a population to function in any social setting, and all peoples "possess equal biological ability to assimilate any human culture" and "racist political doctrines find no foundation in scientific knowledge concerning modern or past human populations."[5]

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    This is all basic college-level information. It's interesting that you deny it. I think this page will be helpful for you.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    I worked with alot of black people and I was around many daily all my life...and none of them played or talking about slavery until someone else mentioned it...a long time very close black friend i worked with said I was never a slave and I dont even think about that stuff...thats for the al sharptons to earn a living with..
    I never met any blacks that harped on the slavery thing...none of them were slaves

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    My work is FULL of African immigrants who are engineers, PEs, etc. Much fewer African-Americans with long American history.

    clearly, centuries of slavery and then segregation has had an effect on the abilities of African-Americans..but has NOT effected their brethren born in Africa.

    could 500 years of slavery and segregation effect the genes of these people? doubt it. but it sure can effect their traditions, upbringing, culture, etc etc.

    in high school I remember hearing about black kids insulting their black friends for doing well on tests. they were accused of trying to "be white".

    this is a cultural thing, not a genetic thing. and it seems to not effect their native-African brethren.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Having gone to a top 10 college and good private schools my entire life. I can tell you that many intelligent people are poor test takers and many not so intelligent people are good test takers. (Of course, intelligence is subjective though). I did both good and bad on tests from year to year. I would say standardized tests measure certain types of skills including patience - which I was lacking when I did worse.
    that can be true-a junior phi beta kappa friend of mine barely cracked 600 on the LSAT because she sucked at taking tests. but its rare. The really bright people I knew at Yale, a Rhodes scholar suite mate (800) two founders of the federalist society (both 800s) etc a couple more Rhodes (780 and 800) , the current sterling professor of con law at Yale (793) tended to have really high scores



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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    My work is FULL of African immigrants who are engineers, PEs, etc. Much very few African-Americans with long American history.

    clearly, centuries of slavery and then segregation has had an effect on the abilities of African-Americans..but has NOT effected their brethren born in Africa.

    could 500 years of slavery and segregation effect the genes of these people? doubt it. but it sure can effect their traditions, upbringing, etc etc.
    South africa under apartheid knew slavery very well...many hate whites to this day there

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