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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sure we do.
    Who?...............

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Here's one:

    aka "Yes."
    That's really stretching the definition of racism beyond all significance. A few years ago a number of studies were published in genetic journals which looked at the issue of Ashkenazim Jewish Intelligence and why these Jews, as a group, score so exceptionally high, why they are disproportionately winners of Nobel Prizes in science, etc and detailed some mutations which disproportionate affect the Ashkenazim and hardly anyone said boo about racism.

    It's logically impossible for a group to be more intelligent than the mean for a population and not have it be possible for a group to be less intelligent than the mean for a population. Why do liberal creationists claim that one side of this coin is racism and the other side of the coin is just science?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Well that certainly doesn't qualify as a creationist viewpoint. OK, now we're acknowledging that genetics is pertinent to the issue. What's the next step. At least the facade of pretending is now dispensed with.

    As to the question of black population in the US, they comprise 13% or so of the population, or 1 of 7.5 people.
    Just to be clear, what I am referring to is descendents of slaves. And lingering effects of selective breeding from that period.

    Globally, as far as I know, genetic differences are environmentally explainable and statistically neutral.

    The only actual genetic factor that I think is statistically relevant is intellect. The difference between the very smart and the least smart is FAR more significant than any racial variance.And I think geniuses pop up pretty evenly dispersed amongst the various racial subsets, allowing for external factors (inbreeding for instance).
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    That's really stretching the definition of racism beyond all significance. A few years ago a number of studies were published in genetic journals which looked at the issue of Ashkenazim Jewish Intelligence and why these Jews, as a group, score so exceptionally high, why they are disproportionately winners of Nobel Prizes in science, etc and detailed some mutations which disproportionate affect the Ashkenazim and hardly anyone said boo about racism.

    It's logically impossible for a group to be more intelligent than the mean for a population and not have it be possible for a group to be less intelligent than the mean for a population. Why do liberal creationists claim that one side of this coin is racism and the other side of the coin is just science?
    Partly because rightly or wrongly, the clarion call of racism undermines anything else that's said. It's as much a tactic as it is a reality.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    That's really stretching the definition of racism beyond all significance. A few years ago a number of studies were published in genetic journals which looked at the issue of Ashkenazim Jewish Intelligence and why these Jews, as a group, score so exceptionally high, why they are disproportionately winners of Nobel Prizes in science, etc and detailed some mutations which disproportionate affect the Ashkenazim and hardly anyone said boo about racism.

    It's logically impossible for a group to be more intelligent than the mean for a population and not have it be possible for a group to be less intelligent than the mean for a population. Why do liberal creationists claim that one side of this coin is racism and the other side of the coin is just science?
    Considering that race is not a distinct biological category, intelligence is subjective and scientists generally hold that genetics don't significantly affect intelligence, I think that racism is a good explanation for why you think that blacks are inherently more stupid than whites.

    I don't think most liberals would disagree that blacks tend to do worse academically than whites, but the leap from societal factors to "inherently less intelligent" suggests racism. Deal with it.
    Last edited by ThePlayDrive; 08-14-11 at 11:07 PM.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    source??????
    Peoples, Fagan & Drotar

    The influence of race on 3-year-old children's performance on the Stanford-Binet: Fourth edition

    This study examines the influence of race on performance on the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale: Fourth Edition (SB:FE; Thorndike, Hagan, & Sattler, 1986) for European American and African American children matched on age, gender, birth order, and maternal education. A significant difference in mean IQ, favoring European American children, was found indicating that racial group differences in IQ could be demonstrated at 3 years of age. The magnitude of difference was approximately 1 SD. The African American children scored lower on each subtest administered. However, the degree of disparity in performance between the groups was disproportionately associated with particular subtests. The greater the subtest's loading on the first principal factor, the greater the disparity in scores between the two racial groups (r = .71). Thus, our findings confirm the Spearman hypothesis as early as 3 years of age.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Partly because rightly or wrongly, the clarion call of racism undermines anything else that's said. It's as much a tactic as it is a reality.
    I agree.

    Question: What's the definition of a racist?
    Answer: Anyone beating a liberal in an argument.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    ...The African American children scored lower on each subtest administered....
    #1. NO African-Americans are 100% African. They all have some European and even some Native-American genetics.

    #2. Barack Obama is NOT African-American, as he is not the descendant of African slaves brought to America.

    ....so, how do we know the genes behind the African-American's poor IQ scores were not their white ones?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Considering that race is not a distinct biological category, intelligence is subjective and scientists generally hold that genetics don't significantly affect intelligence,
    Wrong on all 3 points. 3 Strikes. Wow, that's impressive. Talking out of your ass is about as winning a strategy as the advice Dean Wormer gave Flounder:


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    #1. NO African-Americans are 100% African. They all have some European and even some Native-American genetics.

    #2. Barack Obama is NOT African-American, as he is not the descendant of African slaves brought to America.

    ....so, how do we know the genes behind the African-American's poor IQ scores were not their white ones?
    That's ****ing unbelievable!

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