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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    right, because there is just NO WAY a black man could earn his way into Harvard.

    With his grades there is no way anyone would get into the school without a favor of some sort. Race is the only possibility for him unless he knew people in high places.

    ...now, was his law degree and graduation with highest honors also a product of affirmative action?
    Maybe, people get good grades that go to Harvard that turn around to be complete dipsticks. The truth is to keep up their appearances they give grades to keep an average in school. Recently they try to say that kind of activity is nonexistent but evidence of it continually pops up in the form of confessions by the professors. Its very hard to take any grade or award at Harvard as meaningful with the amount of evidence that exists that say it is actually meaningless.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bush had a truckload of common sense.
    Yup, and that truck was completely EMPTY!

    Something Obama is seriously lacking.
    lol

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Reading some of these racist comments reminds me of one of the hidden benefits of having Obama in the White House: His mere presence as the Chief Executive Officer of a majority-White nation punishes their egos. Deep down inside, something inside them hurts a little bit more every day because of the mere fact that a Black man has any degree of power over them. And when racists lose, everybody else wins.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Reading some of these racist comments reminds me of one of the hidden benefits of having Obama in the White House: His mere presence as the Chief Executive Officer of a majority-White nation punishes their egos. Deep down inside, something inside them hurts a little bit more every day because of the mere fact that a Black man has any degree of power over them. And when racists lose, everybody else wins.
    yes, some people are just infuriated that a black man could lead this great country.

    either he faked his records, or he used affirmative action, or he was born in Kenya, or he is part of a Communist conspiracy. either way, his legitimacy as President must be attacked at all costs.



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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Not at all, but thanks for going into hyperbole overdrive when confronted with facts which contradict your creationist worldview.

    Loot at the LSAT distribution by race. There were 300 black test takers in the US who scored better than 50% of white students. To the degree that the LSAT is a proxy for intelligence, these test takers were more intelligent than 50% of the white test takers. There were 51 black test takers who were more intelligent than 84% of all the white test takers in that year.

    We're dealing with overlapping distributions here, not absolutes. Do you not realize that? Quite clearly those blacks who did well on the LSAT were more intelligent than the whites who didn't score as high as them.
    Hey dude, I'm not in hyperbole overdrive. You said that you think blacks are genetically predisposed to being less intelligent than whites. Don't say it if you don't want it thrown back at you. And you keep equating LSAT scores with intelligence when that's not necessarily a good thing to do since intelligence is subjective and LSAT's do not measure all of it. Moreover, standardized tests measure acquired skills that blacks, who tend to grow up in poorer environments, are less likely to acquire even if they are intelligent.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    What's weird about your conclusion though is that "race" is a contested concept and races are not accepted to exist by most scientists as unambiguous, biologically distinct groups.
    Well, when you engage in fallacy by definition, who can argue with you? That's like arguing that no one recognizes that children exist as a concept when we define children as people who have not yet entered puberty and who are between the ages of 25 and 100. According to that crazy definition there are no such thing as children in the world.

    No one who studies population genetics looks at race as "biologically distinct groups." Race is a widely used concept in genetics and even computer programs can parse people into racial groups by analyzing their genetic structure:

    "The study is by far the largest, consisting of 3,636 people who all identified themselves as either white, African-American, East Asian or Hispanic. Of these, only five individuals had DNA that matched an ethnic group different than the box they checked at the beginning of the study. That's an error rate of 0.14 percent. . . .

    For each person in the study, the researchers examined 326 DNA regions that tend to vary between people. These regions are not necessarily within genes, but are simply genetic signposts on chromosomes that come in a variety of different forms at the same location.

    Without knowing how the participants had identified themselves, Risch and his team ran the results through a computer program that grouped individuals according to patterns of the 326 signposts. This analysis could have resulted in any number of different clusters, but only four clear groups turned up. And in each case the individuals within those clusters all fell within the same self-identified racial group."

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    2183 Black test takers
    31,539 white test takers,
    ratio of 14.4475:1

    At the 50th white percentile, the ratio was
    16,770 white test takers
    300 black test takers
    ratio of 55.9:1

    At the 84th percentile, the ratio was
    4,367 white test takers
    51 black test takers
    ratio of 85.62:1

    At the 95th percentile, the ratio was
    1,577 white test takers
    11 black test takers
    ratio of 143.36:1

    A ratio of 14.5 to 1 for those sitting for the LSAT ends up growing to 143:1 for those who score in the top 5%.

    That's not meaningful to you? A 143 to 1 ratio is just discarded as an Inconvenient Truth.
    Just for the sake of relevance, what is the ratio of whites to blacks in this country?
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Reading some of these racist comments reminds me of one of the hidden benefits of having Obama in the White House: His mere presence as the Chief Executive Officer of a majority-White nation punishes their egos. Deep down inside, something inside them hurts a little bit more every day because of the mere fact that a Black man has any degree of power over them. And when racists lose, everybody else wins.
    That's why I can't even get angry about this thread. You've got a Harvard Grad who was president of the Harvard Law Review and a professor at the University of Chicago for 12 years where he was offered tenure several times and highly respected by students and colleagues - but he didn't get a 4.0 during undergrad so now we're on the subject of how blacks are less intelligent than whites. This thread is so stupid.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    For everyone who is not a creationist, all the evidence points to this outcome. I'm not a creationist.

    So tell me, what invisible force has stopped evolutionary processes from taking place above the neck considering that the human species has occupied many thousands of micro-environments over tens of thousands of years which have produced untold variation on a number of human metrics. What stopped mutation, drift and selection from working?
    Turd in the punchbowl, but Chris Rock brought it up so its ok.

    400 years of eugenics will do that to people. Professional sports, anyone?

    I'm sure its correcting, but I've witnessed breeding of a new breed of cat, and jt doesn't take many generations to select/deselect traits. Slaves were livestock. Size, strength, stamina, complacency are the kind of things they selected for. Intelligence? Certainly not.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    That's why I can't even get angry about this thread. You've got a Harvard Grad who was president of the Harvard Law Review and a professor at the University of Chicago for 12 years where he was offered tenure several times and highly respected by students and colleagues - but he didn't get a 4.0 during undergrad so now we're on the subject of how blacks are less intelligent than whites. This thread is so stupid.
    To be accurate, I believe the claim was (don't shoot the messenger) that Obama's entrance into Harvard was in part due to affirmative action. I don't know that to be true or not, but it IS and WAS true that Harvard did participate in affirmative action. That doesn't diminish accomplishment made while there by any means. The entire thread is stupid as how can anyone compare their intelligence against another unless the backgrounds, education and subject matter on which it is being judged is the same ... then maybe an apples to apples comparison could be made. But it's been pointed out that first... intelligence is rather subjective and just because someone has graduated from an Ivy League school does not mean they are smart -- it means they are academically intelligent and can do well in academia, it does not by default mean they are smart. I work with a few PhD's who are intelligent but not very smart.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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