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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You don't become president by being a dummy, period. Even George W. Bush was probably well above average in terms of intelligence.
    Sure you can. All you need to do is show the illusion of being smart. Have a good speech writer and have a good amount of practice public speaking and there you go. All they are really doing is leading idiots.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Unless blacks are overwhelming scoring 5s on the LSAT, the difference isn't that meaningful to me.
    2183 Black test takers
    31,539 white test takers,
    ratio of 14.4475:1

    At the 50th white percentile, the ratio was
    16,770 white test takers
    300 black test takers
    ratio of 55.9:1

    At the 84th percentile, the ratio was
    4,367 white test takers
    51 black test takers
    ratio of 85.62:1

    At the 95th percentile, the ratio was
    1,577 white test takers
    11 black test takers
    ratio of 143.36:1

    A ratio of 14.5 to 1 for those sitting for the LSAT ends up growing to 143:1 for those who score in the top 5%.

    That's not meaningful to you? A 143 to 1 ratio is just discarded as an Inconvenient Truth.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sure you can. All you need to do is show the illusion of being smart. Have a good speech writer and have a good amount of practice public speaking and there you go. All they are really doing is leading idiots.
    You should be able to show a history of accomplishments also. Your point is taken though and hopefully we don't make the same mistake again.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I asked you first: do you think that blacks are genetically predisposed to being less intelligent than whites?
    For everyone who is not a creationist, all the evidence points to this outcome. I'm not a creationist.

    So tell me, what invisible force has stopped evolutionary processes from taking place above the neck considering that the human species has occupied many thousands of micro-environments over tens of thousands of years which have produced untold variation on a number of human metrics. What stopped mutation, drift and selection from working?

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Obama is a helluva smart than most of the people in the world. How many people can graduate from Harvard Law, become a senator, then a president?
    Seriously, even the far-rightists have to admit Obama's very smart, smarter than most of the people on Earth. He made many tough decisions, etc...
    Also, why's the title "Are you smarter than The Obama?"
    The Obama? That's a very disrespectful term for your POTUS
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    2183 Black test takers
    31,539 white test takers,
    ratio of 14.4475:1

    At the 50th white percentile, the ratio was
    16,770 white test takers
    300 black test takers
    ratio of 55.9:1

    At the 84th percentile, the ratio was
    4,367 white test takers
    51 black test takers
    ratio of 85.62:1

    At the 95th percentile, the ratio was
    1,577 white test takers
    11 black test takers
    ratio of 143.36:1

    A ratio of 14.5 to 1 for those sitting for the LSAT ends up growing to 143:1 for those who score in the top 5%.

    That's not meaningful to you? A 143 to 1 ratio is just discarded as an Inconvenient Truth.
    Sure is. Question is, why's it there?

    Well, here's one pretty strong contender.
    Stereotype threat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The affect of ones own thinking about their potential performance is absolutely huge when it comes to their actual performance.

    Testing environments that attempt to erase the stereotype threat see a near-complete closure of testing score gaps.

    There may also be other contributing factors, such as the types of districts minorities are likely to have access to, higher lead levels and other contaminates in their environment, etc.

    But it's fairly clear that black people are not genetically less intelligent. Psychological expectation is much stronger than we give it credit for.
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Obama is clearly a very well-read individual who knows a lot about the law, history, etc etc.

    Anyone who doubts Obama's intelligence is just being silly, jealous, or pathetically partisan.

    And btw, Bush got into Yale as a legacy.....unlike Obama who had to earn & work his way in to Harvard.

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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Obama is a helluva smart than most of the people in the world. How many people can graduate from Harvard Law, become a senator, then a president?
    Seriously, even the far-rightists have to admit Obama's very smart, smarter than most of the people on Earth. He made many tough decisions, etc...
    Given the entire worlds population I would say you'd be right. He is smarter than most of the people in the world... then again, you also have to consider that most of the people on Earth do not have the resources, choices, options and advantages he had either. When put into perspective, your accolades really aren't that great. Don't compare "The Obama" to the rest of the world, compare him to people who are comparable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Also, why's the title "Are you smarter than The Obama?"
    The Obama? That's a very disrespectful term for your POTUS
    I enjoyed the title.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Actual smart. The ability to analyze information. You may disagree with somebody politically or whatever, but how smart they are is definitely still measurable, and somebody who is a law professor at the U of Chicago is ridiculously smart. Just to attend the U of Chicago Law School you need to be approaching genius IQ. To be a professor there you need to be one step ahead of all your students all the time. And out of all the law schools out there, Chicago is generally seen as the most rigorous, no-bs, kind of a school. Very analytical, a lot of economics, etc.
    Actually its my understanding that the higher the intellect, the greater tendency for it to "focus" in a certain area (math, music, language, etc). Further, that focus actually kind of "takes over" and actually causes one to be deficient in some other areas(s).

    Einstein couldn't spell or tie his shoes, for instance. A "lack of common sense" in the super intelligent is so common its cliche.

    Intelligence expresses itself in so many ways, simply a different environment can make the difference between success and failure for two people with identical IQ scores.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Are you smarter than The Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Obama is clearly a very well-read individual who knows a lot about the law, history, etc etc.

    Anyone who doubts Obama's intelligence is just being silly, jealous, or pathetically partisan.

    And btw, Bush got into Yale as a legacy.....unlike Obama who had to earn & work his way in to Harvard.
    Bush got into Yale because of legacy, but Obama got into Harvard because of his race. To show otherwise would involve showing an improvement since high school that would be enough to gain access to Harvard. That increase would be impossible as the grades were far too low and no amount of improvement at Columbia would gain anyone access.

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