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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Anyone who even spent any time in Texas would know that this a sentiment that plays very well with Texans and can be chalked up to being nothing more political rhetoric with no serious meaning past playing to the audience.

    There is a saying that is very true, it is: "Don't mess with Texas" I n the two and a half years I was living there I was amazed having never seen any group of people as proud as their State as Texans.

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Anyone who even spent any time in Texas would know that this a sentiment that plays very well with Texans and can be chalked up to being nothing more political rhetoric with no serious meaning past playing to the audience.
    Uhmmm 5th generation Texan here.

    I think Perry is dolt even more now for this crud

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmmm 5th generation Texan here.

    I think Perry is dolt even more now for this crud
    I don't know enough about Perry to argue about him being a dolt or not and haven't lived in Texas for many years, but I stand by what I said because I know politicians and I still have friends in Texas who are very proud of the State.

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I don't know enough about Perry to argue about him being a dolt or not and haven't lived in Texas for many years, but I stand by what I said because I know politicians and I still have friends in Texas who are very proud of the State.
    About all the people I know in Texas have always taken the secession thing for what it is, a joke.

    Yeah we boast, brag and are loud mouthed but we also have some common sense.

    And when Perry got on this roll it was like "oh man what a maroon."
    Last edited by winston53660; 08-16-11 at 09:43 PM.

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Anyone who even spent any time in Texas would know that this a sentiment that plays very well with Texans and can be chalked up to being nothing more political rhetoric with no serious meaning past playing to the audience.

    There is a saying that is very true, it is: "Don't mess with Texas" I n the two and a half years I was living there I was amazed having never seen any group of people as proud as their State as Texans.
    "We fought a war over this. Lots of Americans died. The secessionists lost—including the ones in Texas. Secession is no more legal now than it was then.

    And while talking about secession undoubtedly plays well among the 3 in 10 Texas voters ill-informed enough to think it's a serious political statement, it also makes the rest of the country (and likely the rest of the state) roll our eyes in bewilderment at the Lone Star Clown."
    Texas Secession? Perry, One Third of Texans Are Wrong: Texas Can't Secede - Robert Schlesinger (usnews.com)
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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmmm 5th generation Texan here.

    I think Perry is dolt even more now for this crud
    You think a conservative is a dolt? That's shocking.
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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You think a conservative is a dolt? That's shocking.
    Winston speaks for most Texans.

    More Texans dislike Perry than Obama:

    "A poll released Wednesday showed that in a hypothetical match-up for the presidency, President Barack Obama would defeat Texas Gov. Rick Perry among Texas voters by a margin of 45-47 percent."
    Texans Hate Rick Perry More Than They Hate Barack Obama
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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    There are a lot of reasons why I won't vote for Perry... this isn't high on the list

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    All the right leaning people that voted no, would have voted yes if Obama made the statement instead...

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    Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Oh noes!!!! I put an extra c in the word, clearly that means you're right
    This is why reading comprehension is our friend. Secession and Succession are two different thing. Do you understand that yet?

    I know the futility of trying to confront you with actual facts but I'll post this anyway;

    "Discussions and threats of secession have often surfaced in American politics, but only in the case of the Confederate States of America was secession actually declared. A 2008 Zogby International poll revealed that 22% of Americans believe that "any state or region has the right to peaceably secede and become an independent republic."[32][33] The United States Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that unilateral secession was unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession.[34][35]"

    Secession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Read the Declaration of Independence sometime. There's always been an understanding that it is quite possible for a government to lose the consent of the governed. This country was founded on revolution. It's a little funny to me that people who would never criticize Jane Fonda's activities during Vietnam will accuse Rick Perry of treason simply because he's conservative.
    More failure to read what is being stated in my post. The grounds for a secession being successful which is what your links talks about and whether or not a secession is treason are two completely different things.
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