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uh I am bashing your claims not you. your claim is a statist approach
Have any proof of that ? one of your favorite lines I believe
uh I am bashing your claims not you. your claim is a statist approach
So turtle...do you think veterans getting military disablity are parasites too ? do you think career military with 30 yrs shouldnt get a govt a pension ?
You really deny those facts
you cannot even answer your trade but here you go
The Tax Foundation - Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data
Have any proof of that ? one of your favorite lines I believe
Thats not proof thats just a right wing propaganda teaparty whining site...
actually I think it's the other way around, if anything, it is your concept of "fair" does not have any "rational relationship to reality"
never said that. I just tire of trade school enlistees acting like everyone else ought to pay more taxes.
you have never provided any evidence that you are on a military disability or a 30 year careerist
I noted in other threads that such people deserve the benefit of whatever contract they entered
feel free to post something that is more rational
Im neither and I never claimed to be...i am not on a disability nor was I career military...I am a veteran...
be my guest .. show me how its done TurtleDude .. show me a rational argument for your case that states that according to traditional values/ethics (i.e. the ones that all religions and most philosophies support ... why would so many religions and philosophies come of with the exact same tenants? this may be a good question to ask yourself), being tyrannical is justified .. I dare you ..
Im neither and I never claimed to be...i am not on a disability nor was I career military...I am a veteran...
Well, I'd say you are an intelligent person from reading your posts and absolute freedom (aka anarchy) is a myth .. it has never existed, nor can it .. people will always govern themselves. So, I am saying that you have a set of freedoms, liberties and rights that you value and call "freedom" - this is to say that everyone's idea of "freedom" is subject and thus different. The correct term would be something like a government system that only governs the things you think it should.
So you think trade school graduates are scumbags ? you mean the people that fix the richs air conditioners so their soft mushy bodies dont get over heated, you mean the plumbers that put your bathroom and kitchen in when your house was built so you dont have to use an outhouse...you mean the people that BUILT YOUR house and your office...Oh i know..you mean all the men that you cant hold a candle next to physically lol...talk about ranting...your the queen of ranting and whining lol....Oh those guys paid into social security all their lives too...
I thank you for the explanation. I believe you can have anarchy, but that has never been something that I have sought. With freedom comes responsibility and government. Freedom includes not taking things away unless they are agreed upon as immoral, i.e. sterilization, polygamy, etc. If you wish to call that loosely, that's fine by me.
Lets compromise and call it "your definition of freedom" versus "my definition of freedom" (which we have, in past posts, found are more similar than we may have thought) - still each man's version of "freedom" is loosely defined and quite subjective
And you want a government that punishes those you don't like by confiscating wealth and giving it to others?
Why should I support government functions that punish me and provide me no benefits?
welfare socialism is a scheme by which those who are rich through public office use my and other net taxpayers' wealth to buy votes of those who feed off the government tit
We've always had modern courts as long as we've had capitalism. Find me a capitlaist nation that has not had something similar to our modern courts. Capitalism cannot exist without the state and your argument that it can is idiotic. Secondly the workers far outnumber the rich. If it wasn't for the state to protect them than the workers could easily rise up and take over the factories,stores, etc. and the owners could do nothing about it. Oh and as to your ice pick example, the guy who doesn't want to pay for his car could just as kill the dealership owner before he sends a thug after him.you can spew that crap till the cows fly but its crap. Pure and simple its crap. Your silly rants about contracts are idiotic. If the police did not take the car away from you, then the rich owner would hire some guy to put an icepick through your ear. That's how things worked before we had modern courts and law enforcement. The courts and law enforcement help the poor far more than you think.
I showed that the rich pay a far higher share of the tax burden than their share of the income while almost every other group and everyone in the bottom 95% pay less of the tax burden than their share of the income
in other words the group that pays MORE OF THE TAX BURDEN Than their share of the income are the ones people like you are claiming are not paying their fair share which is patently insane
The Tax Foundation - The Facts Contradict Obama's Calls for Higher Taxes on the Rich and Corporations
Recently released IRS data for 2009, shows that taxpayers earning over $200,000 paid 50 percent of the $866 billion in total income taxes paid that year, or $434 billion. Skeptics will say, "That's because they earn the majority of the income in America. Not so. These taxpayers earned 25 percent of the $7.6 trillion in total adjusted gross income in the country that year.
Although it's true that I don't like you, and few things would give me more pleasure than to see you end up destitute because the government confiscated your wealth, that is not really what I'm looking for in a government as a matter of policy.
Because that's the price you pay to live in a society that provides you with the opportunity to become successful. Think of it as rent you pay to live here in this country.
Libertarianism is a scheme by which those who are rich use their own wealth to buy votes of those who don't know any better.
Were is the nugget of ethical argument again? That's what I was asking for .. see what I originally dared you to argue ..
I am still waiting for you to an attempt an objective and rational argument for your specious and unsupportable claim that the rich don't pay their fair share
Ah, you don't have an ethical argument, I see ..
Nobody benefits from big government. As long as there's a government that is hell bent on making more poor people, then poor people will never be able to improve their lives.
you are ranting at your own post dude.
your working class hero act is falling apart
Its not ethical to claim that the one group who pays more of the income tax burden than their share of the income is not paying their fair share
still waiting