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Thread: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    really-any proof of that?
    Everyone of your posts are about YOU and how your being robbed...by seniors on social security and medicare...by the poor on medicaid...and on and on and on....if govt enriched you with contracts or in any way...you wouldnt be whining about that big govt...
    Your always railing on whatever it is other americans get...the unknown billions illegal immigration costs in medical care and everything else...doesnt seem to bother you...you never mention it...neither does the teaparty why is that ?? is it you just begrudge anything american ?

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The rich are net tax payers. The poor are clothed, housed and fed by government. with less government the rich would be richer and the poor would starve. Its not even close.

    In the last six months this board has been infected by an onslaught of "bash the rich" whinuses. Its getting to the point where it appears this board becomes a place where those who are envious and hateful of the rich come to complain
    If you call those who stand up for equality "whinuses" then would not those who get on these forums and "wine" about how they don't have enough money to buy a 10th $300,000 car, or the government does not support financial tyranny enough, or that most rich people actually acquired their wealth via a system of equality, or that they are upset that some are arguing for the wealthy to actually pay their fair share of taxes, etc. also "whinuses"? Those type of arguments seem as whinny as any and even more as they are selfish in nature .. just some thoughts

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure it is. and those who are most victimized by crime are the poor.
    Because the criminal knows that they are more likely to be punished if the victim is wealthy.

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Everyone of your posts are about YOU and how your being robbed...by seniors on social security and medicare...by the poor on medicaid...and on and on and on....if govt enriched you with contracts or in any way...you wouldnt be whining about that big govt...
    Your always railing on whatever it is other americans get...the unknown billions illegal immigration costs in medical care and everything else...doesnt seem to bother you...you never mention it...neither does the teaparty why is that ?? is it you just begrudge anything american ?

    why are you making stuff up. why are you so upset with the teaparty? are you sucking on the public teat and are afraid they are going to cut off your free supply of milk?



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    If you call those who stand up for equality "whinuses" then would not those who get on these forums and "wine" about how they don't have enough money to buy a 10th $300,000 car, or the government does not support financial tyranny enough, or that most rich people actually acquired their wealth via a system of equality, or that they are upset that some are arguing for the wealthy to actually pay their fair share of taxes, etc. also "whinuses"? Those type of arguments seem as whinny as any and even more as they are selfish in nature .. just some thoughts
    There is so much hypocrisy from the rich its obscene...Everytime they want to try and curtail frivolous lawsuits via tort reform all the rich lawyers break out the wallet and start giving to the politicians to save their gold mine....Turtle says he hates politicians that give away money to people get elected..of course he meant the peasants...I wonder if turtle hates all the LOBBIESTS HIRED BY THE RICH to suck in all the politicians to keep their gold mines open and their gravy train tooting along....like I said the hypocrisy of the teaparty sickens me...thats why I am no longer a republican

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    If you call those who stand up for equality "whinuses" then would not those who get on these forums and "wine" about how they don't have enough money to buy a 10th $300,000 car, or the government does not support financial tyranny enough, or that most rich people actually acquired their wealth via a system of equality, or that they are upset that some are arguing for the wealthy to actually pay their fair share of taxes, etc. also "whinuses"? Those type of arguments seem as whinny as any and even more as they are selfish in nature .. just some thoughts
    could you rephrase that psychobabble of a post. I don't read emotobabble all that well

    the rich pay far more than their fair share of taxes based on

    1) their percentage of the population versus what they use in government and what they pay

    2) their share of income versus their share of the income tax

    and you ignore the fact that rich people are mainly rich because they provide lots of value to others



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are you making stuff up. why are you so upset with the teaparty? are you sucking on the public teat and are afraid they are going to cut off your free supply of milk?
    lpast is probably much less afraid of that than you are of the government removing the wealthy from its teat .. jmo

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There is so much hypocrisy from the rich its obscene...Everytime they want to try and curtail frivolous lawsuits via tort reform all the rich lawyers break out the wallet and start giving to the politicians to save their gold mine....Turtle says he hates politicians that give away money to people get elected..of course he meant the peasants...I wonder if turtle hates all the LOBBIESTS HIRED BY THE RICH to suck in all the politicians to keep their gold mines open and their gravy train tooting along....like I said the hypocrisy of the teaparty sickens me...thats why I am no longer a republican
    what is really funny is the inconsistencies you twist yourself into in your jihad against the rich

    first you troll by bashing lawyers

    now you whine about the rich wanting to curtail frivolous lawsuits when those lawsuits actually cost each consumer hundreds of dollars per year in increased costs-from products to health services

    Your rants are consistent only in how pathetically reasoned they are

    you claim you hate the GOP because of the Teaparty

    You've been a far lefty since day one on this board



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    lpast is probably much less afraid of that than you are of the government removing the wealthy from its teat .. jmo

    Ah a mind reader. Interesting



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    could you rephrase that psychobabble of a post. I don't read emotobabble all that well

    the rich pay far more than their fair share of taxes based on

    1) their percentage of the population versus what they use in government and what they pay
    There is already enough evidence against this "emotobabble" that claims that the government does not provide services which the rich utilize to their own benefits

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