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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you can spew that crap till the cows fly but its crap. Pure and simple its crap. Your silly rants about contracts are idiotic. If the police did not take the car away from you, then the rich owner would hire some guy to put an icepick through your ear. That's how things worked before we had modern courts and law enforcement. The courts and law enforcement help the poor far more than you think.
    .. and they help the rich far more than you think

    .. somehow, I find it hard to believe that even you would be supportive of a government that would allow someone to "put an icepick through your ear"

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    OH I am very happy but I see this country going down the toilet mainly due to politicians who need to spend more and more to buy the votes of the many.

    what would make me happier

    1) courts that actually enforce the tenth amendment

    2) a tax system that does not encourage the many to want more and more spending that they don't have to pay for.
    I would like to see a country where there wasnt a sleazy lawyer under every rock milking the wealth of this country with frivolous class action lawsuits against everything and everyone FOR PERSONAL GAIN AND GREED...lawyers put this country in the hole its in

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    OH I am very happy but I see this country going down the toilet mainly due to politicians who need to spend more and more to buy the votes of the many.

    what would make me happier

    1) courts that actually enforce the tenth amendment

    2) a tax system that does not encourage the many to want more and more spending that they don't have to pay for.
    Actually I think the reason we are going into a recession is more related to immoral businessmen out to make a buck no matter how badly it effected the economy .. still want to remove government regulations?

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    .. and they help the rich far more than you think

    .. somehow, I find it hard to believe that even you would be supportive of a government that would allow someone to "put an icepick through your ear"
    So tell me how does the government directly benefit the rich vs the Poor

    and I am merely telling you how things used to work without endorsing any such activity.

    I am a trial attorney. I have watched whistleblowers make millions ratting out their employers. Postal workers win 6-7 figure Title VII suits against their employer. Poor rural folks win big malpractice cases against wealthy doctors. all because of GOVERNMENT. In most of the nation and the world's history that sort of stuff couldn't happen



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Actually I think the reason we are going into a recession is more related to immoral businessmen out to make a buck no matter how badly it effected the economy .. still want to remove government regulations?
    some would say too much government screwing around caused as much of the problem as anything else



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I would like to see a country where there wasnt a sleazy lawyer under every rock milking the wealth of this country with frivolous class action lawsuits against everything and everyone FOR PERSONAL GAIN AND GREED...lawyers put this country in the hole its in
    Indeed ... corporations would not have nearly as much control (they currently have much more power than the government does) if it weren't for lawyers coercing certain policies that work to protect those involved in the corporation without holding them accountable for their actions

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Actually I think the reason we are going into a recession is more related to immoral businessmen out to make a buck no matter how badly it effected the economy .. still want to remove government regulations?
    Immoral businessmen and LAWYERS which most politicians are...lawyers that sue for millions over a ham sandwich for PERSONAL GAIN and PURE GREED...Driving the cost of healthcare through the roof...its singularly the sleaziest cult on the planet...legal cult

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I would like to see a country where there wasnt a sleazy lawyer under every rock milking the wealth of this country with frivolous class action lawsuits against everything and everyone FOR PERSONAL GAIN AND GREED...lawyers put this country in the hole its in
    I agree with you 100% there are 10X as many lawyers as there should be. Many are a drag on the system-many end up being politicians where they often are a cancer. Law Schools should be as difficult to get into as medical school. Half the cases I defend are caused by too many lawyers chasing too few valid (money making) cases.



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Immoral businessmen and LAWYERS which most politicians are...lawyers that sue for millions over a ham sandwich for PERSONAL GAIN and PURE GREED...Driving the cost of healthcare through the roof...its singularly the sleaziest cult on the planet...legal cult
    again I know, I deal with them constantly. You aren't going to piss me off no matter how much you try to by bashing lawyers



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree with you 100% there are 10X as many lawyers as there should be. Many are a drag on the system-many end up being politicians where they often are a cancer. Law Schools should be as difficult to get into as medical school. Half the cases I defend are caused by too many lawyers chasing too few valid (money making) cases.
    Behind every greedy businessman that doesnt give a crap if the streets are strewn with dead peasants theres three sleazy lawyers up his arse telling him how to get away with selling the bodies for parts

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