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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    People tend to go about government in one of two ways
    1. What is best for me
    2. What is best for everyone

    I prefer the second approach.

    most lefties (not saying you but most) pretend that their way is the best for most. I don't buy that



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I assume you are using the term freedom loosely?
    Please explain what you mean as I do not understand your question.

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most lefties (not saying you but most) pretend that their way is the best for most. I don't buy that
    What data do you derive this statement from?

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Even if the government was taxing you at 90% or higher, you would still get the benefits of protection of private property and enforcement of contracts. Those are necessary for you to accumulate wealth and they are impossible without the government. So tell me how you are getting no benefits?
    that is like saying if you have to spend half your life in prison you still have freedom half the time

    I am getting absolutely no additional benefits for paying far far more of the tax load than 99% of the population

    You socialists always use From each according to their ability and never ever consider the value received

    you labor under the delusion that people are rich because the GOVERNMENT has somehow given them some extra benefits



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What data do you derive this statement from?
    I see it all the time here. making people dependent on an every growing government makes things better for those who run government



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see it all the time here. making people dependent on an every growing government makes things better for those who run government
    So people here are saying "I want government to grow to make people dependent, so that politicians can have more power?"

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is like saying if you have to spend half your life in prison you still have freedom half the time

    I am getting absolutely no additional benefits for paying far far more of the tax load than 99% of the population

    You socialists always use From each according to their ability and never ever consider the value received

    you labor under the delusion that people are rich because the GOVERNMENT has somehow given them some extra benefits
    The fact remains that you owe every penny you own to the government because of the services they provide. Without the government to protect your private property you would see actual socialism here very quickly. However, luckily for you the the government by use of its police powers protects your "right" to own private property and exploit others.

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    So people here are saying "I want government to grow to make people dependent, so that politicians can have more power?"
    not the useful fools who vote for those who feel that way



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not the useful fools who vote for those who feel that way
    I am just curious where the people on the forum who make these sorts of statements are.

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    The fact remains that you owe every penny you own to the government because of the services they provide. Without the government to protect your private property you would see actual socialism here very quickly. However, luckily for you the the government by use of its police powers protects your "right" to own private property and exploit others.
    that's as moronic as saying the Rhodes Scholar owes his scholarship to his college or the professional athlete owes his 15 million dollar signing bonus to the UCLA athletic department

    what extra do I get that you do not?

    Your moronic claim that I exploit others demonstrates what truly motivates the malignant scourge of socialism



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