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Thread: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Lawyers are a scourge on this country...the people and govt included out of greed...everyone knows it turtle doesnt even have to be said...any adult knows how lawyers milk this country, corporations and dont try they do it for the common good, spare me.. As far as my inconsistencies...thats a figment of your hate of the working class imagination...from the day I hit this forum in march the lionshare of your posts are about the Parasitic seniors in social security and medicare...the parasitic poor....you insinuate everyone that isnt rich is a lazy parasite, You have railed on public workers are parasites...you believe that walmart workers should pay for the own healthcare and save for thier retirement....sure they can do that on 10 bucks an hour....
    Now as far as my always being a liberal...I could ask you to prove that...but instead Ill tell you this...If I were always a liberal...I like it alot better than being around you and your buddies....and Im a guy that doesnt need social security or medicare..I can pay my own way and afford cadillac health insurance...but I know theres millions that cant...and im willing to pay a little more for that...Id still have more than i needed...but some people...never have enough
    this is getting rather stupid on your part.

    where have I called seniors parasites? I find it interesting that you haven't told us what you do.

    and yes you are inconsistent. emotobabble appears to be all you have left



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh no one has said that there are no benefits to the rich. what has been said is that the rich do not have benefits in proportion to their share of the tax burden and those at the bottom get tons of benefits for which they pay nothing

    understand??
    its pretty hard to understand ... what was it that you called it? oh yes .. "emotobable"

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well we can start with direct benefits and indirect benefits

    direct benefits can be anything from government handouts such as SSI to the coast guard saving you when your boat runs around to a governmental firefighting unit stopping a california wildfire from destroying your home to indirect benefits such as the CDC thwarting an outbreak before it hits your community to the fact that our Nukes may deter from country from thinking about invading us.
    Fair enough. Next how do we assign weight? Not getting a welfare check generally doesn't mean dying. Not have the coast guard rescue your yatch and you drowning seems like a higher priority. At the same time, not getting medical care through medicare is pretty life and death.
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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fine keep on crying like a little baby and making cliche driven ad hom arguments.


    No skin off my nose. It only reflects on you.
    ah another bit of projection. No skin off my nose, I am not the one constantly whining about my lot in life

    ever notice I don't mind having four or five people attacking me personally on threads like this



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Fair enough. Next how do we assign weight? Not getting a welfare check generally doesn't mean dying. Not have the coast guard rescue your yatch and you drowning seems like a higher priority. At the same time, not getting medical care through medicare is pretty life and death.
    all true

    but what we can clearly admit is also true is that the 47% who don't pay any federal income taxes surely use a fair amount of the benefits funded by the income tax and the 1% who pay 40% of the income tax do not use 40% of the benefits provided for by that income tax. the math just doesn't work out



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ah another bit of projection. No skin off my nose, I am not the one constantly whining about my lot in life

    ever notice I don't mind having four or five people attacking me personally on threads like this

    All you do is whine.

    "taxes aren't fair whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, death tax whaaaaaaaaaa, leeches / parasites whaaaaaaaaaaa"

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    All you do is whine.

    "taxes aren't fair whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, death tax whaaaaaaaaaa, leeches / parasites whaaaaaaaaaaa"

    Projection again. Is it my fault that you have a medical issue?



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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Pshhhh the rich by far....


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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Projection again. Is it my fault that you have a medical issue?

    LMAO @ you. I don't whine about it. AND IF I DID AT LEAST I HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS A GRIM PROGNOSIS AND SERIOUS DEBILITATING HEALTH IMPLICATIONS TO F'ING WHINE ABOUT!

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    Re: Who benefits the most from the government? Rich or poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    LMAO @ you. I don't whine about it. AND IF I DID AT LEAST I HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS A GRIM PROGNOSIS AND SERIOUS DEBILITATING HEALTH IMPLICATIONS TO F'ING WHINE ABOUT!
    I ask you again, why do I have a duty to pay more taxes because you have been handed a crappy roll of the dice?



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