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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Again, when you make your Christian faith a hallmark of your candidacy, such questions are appropriate.

    I wish someone asks her about how the Bible says a woman CANNOT hold authority over a man.
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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    She could have. Instead, she chose to step around the question and not give it a direct answer.

    So, would she be the submissive wife as POTUS or not? Since she didn't answer, one is lead to believe that she might.
    As a wife, I believe she would be.

    The roll of the President is not the roll of "wife", however, so there is no submissive mandate.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    1st Timothy 2:12

    "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man".

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Without supporting or defending their marital dynamic of submitting, I think there's a difference between choosing a career path, and making decisions within that career path.

    This isn't a uniquely Christian dynamic, either. When I was 16 my father told me to go to a particular fast-food restaurant (because they were hiring) and apply. So I did. Once hired I quickly became a supervisor (mostly because I know how to show up, on time, and sober, lol). While my father told me to enter this business field, he did not then micromanage that business through me, even thoe as his minor child I was morally (and in some ways legally) obligated to 'submit' to him.

    Guiding a spouse into a career field they would excel in is related to the marital relationship, while specific business decisions made in the office are not.

    I would like to know if there's a history of her husband making business decisions through her; running her office through her.
    There's a world of difference between telling your minor child to get a fast food job, simply because they happen to be hiring and your father probably wanted you to learn how to manage a paycheck, and telling a grown woman what to do with tens of thousands of dollars and the next 15 years of her life.

    If she is willing to do that simply because her husband ordered her to, then I think it is beyond doubt she would make a decision within that business simply because he ordered her to. Whether or not he does is another question, but her willingness to do pretty much anything simply because she's been ordered to is concerning.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    ...Except for the fact that her act of submission was in direct relation to her employment. So, obviously, she DOES submit to her husband when making business decisions - up to and including what her business should be. That's why it's a relevant question.
    I don't share your assumption. I see a clear and distinct line separating the 2 rolls, though I agree she didn't answer the question very well at all.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't share your assumption. I see a clear and distinct line separating the 2 rolls, though I agree she didn't answer the question very well at all.
    It's not an assumption. She flat-out said that she decided what business to go into because her husband ordered her to. No need for assumptions when she said it in plain English.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    1st Timothy 2:12

    "I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man".
    If Michelle Bachmann is a Catholic, I can see the concern; though even the Catholic church is allowing women bishops now.

    If Michelle Bachmann is a Protestant, there is no conflict as we Protestants see the matter a bit differently.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    It's not an assumption. She flat-out said that she decided what business to go into because her husband ordered her to. No need for assumptions when she said it in plain English.
    which is far more than she did in response to the question.
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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    There's a world of difference between telling your minor child to get a fast food job, simply because they happen to be hiring and your father probably wanted you to learn how to manage a paycheck, and telling a grown woman what to do with tens of thousands of dollars and the next 15 years of her life.

    If she is willing to do that simply because her husband ordered her to, then I think it is beyond doubt she would make a decision within that business simply because he ordered her to. Whether or not he does is another question, but her willingness to do pretty much anything simply because she's been ordered to is concerning.
    The words you choose hint that you don't understand the Christian view of submission in the first place, to then pose an informed objection. To me it sounds like you're rebounding this story off of America's history of woman's suffrage and Liberal Feminism rather than the biblical standard for establishing legitimacy of a woman's authority.

    As Queen Elizabeth demonstrated, women do not need men in order for their authority to be legitimate.

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    Re: What Did You Think Of This Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The words you choose hint that you don't understand the Christian view of submission in the first place, to then pose an informed objection. To me it sounds like you're rebounding this story off of America's history of woman's suffrage and Liberal Feminism rather than the biblical standard for establishing legitimacy of a woman's authority.

    As Queen Elizabeth demonstrated, women do not need men in order for their authority to be legitimate.
    Of course they don't. But according to some interpretations of the Bible, they do. Whether or not this is reflected in reality makes no difference to whether or not people believe it.

    Is that not, in fact, exactly what she said she did? Did she not, in fact, say that she chose her specific career, which she didn't want, because her husband told her to? Is that not, in fact, the only reason she gave?

    It doesn't matter what your entirely subjective, and in this case, apologetic interpretation of the Bible is. She said what she said. She did not want to be a tax lawyer, in fact she hated the idea. But she did it because her husband told her to. That is what she said. I don't need to "understand" anything about your apologetics to understand what she said.
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