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Thread: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The post office doesn't exist to be profitable. Official government and business communication is done by mail, and thus everyone needs to have access. When you essentially have fixed costs per route, its impossible to avoid taking losses when the overall volume of mail drops. At some point we may completely go electronic, but until that day we have no choice to but to keep the post office running, even at a loss.
    Exactly this isnt an inefficiency issue its basically a lack of business issue...I read mail is 20% of what it was at peak...so closing post offices makes sense..so does ending saturday deliveries....

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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    I would be ok with the post office scaling back its mail service to a few times per week in less profitable areas. The most useful functions for something like the post office is in the "official mail" category, like college transcripts and what not. The purpose of the post office is to establish communications in all areas of the US. However, with modern innovations like the telephone system, other carriers, and the internet, this could be scaled back somewhat.

    However, if a rural route (like where I live) did not get mail every day, but two or three times per week, I doubt people would be harmed (other communications are still possible). High priority stuff like medicine tends to go ups or fedex anyway. Plus you could service a larger area with the same number of carriers.

    Also, a higher price should be charged for junk mail, perhaps wherever the most profitable point between supply and demand is.
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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Most of the USPS problems come from a requirement that they prefund their pensions-something no other employers has to do. The USPS actually breaks even or makes money off of delivering mail It is having to write a 5 billion dollar check each year

    the USPS has massive problems though. The Unions cause much of it. in any given district, 20-40% of the work force can be on some sort of modified duty-be it limited duty (work related injury or impairment) or light duty (non work related injury or impairment)

    another problem is the wage scales. People can almost never find equivalent paying work outside the postal service. that causes issues too.

    In 1991 GHWB signed a law that changed the nature of suits against the USPS by their employees on discrimination claims (which are rampant-most are bogus but many have at least some grounds of dispute). Prior to GHWB-any such suits-which had to first include an administrative investigation and final decision before bringing a suit in federal court-were tried before a district federal judge. Bush allowed (this was caused by a change in the laws governing "sovereign immunity") these matters to be heard by a jury which escalated the costs tremendously



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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Most of the USPS problems come from a requirement that they prefund their pensions-something no other employers has to do. The USPS actually breaks even or makes money off of delivering mail It is having to write a 5 billion dollar check each year

    the USPS has massive problems though. The Unions cause much of it. in any given district, 20-40% of the work force can be on some sort of modified duty-be it limited duty (work related injury or impairment) or light duty (non work related injury or impairment)

    another problem is the wage scales. People can almost never find equivalent paying work outside the postal service. that causes issues too.

    In 1991 GHWB signed a law that changed the nature of suits against the USPS by their employees on discrimination claims (which are rampant-most are bogus but many have at least some grounds of dispute). Prior to GHWB-any such suits-which had to first include an administrative investigation and final decision before bringing a suit in federal court-were tried before a district federal judge. Bush allowed (this was caused by a change in the laws governing "sovereign immunity") these matters to be heard by a jury which escalated the costs tremendously
    Here we go...of course its the workers fault...<eyeroll>

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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    A lot of USPS employees are outrageously overpaid for what they do, not to mention their poor hours and service.
    I know not everyone experiences this but they should scale back home delivery and expand P.O. Box service, leaving package delivery to Fed Ex and UPS.
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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A lot of USPS employees are outrageously overpaid for what they do, not to mention their poor hours and service.
    I know not everyone experiences this but they should scale back home delivery and expand P.O. Box service, leaving package delivery to Fed Ex and UPS.
    Eliminating package service would only compound the issue. Fex Ex, etc do not service low profit areas.

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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Eliminating package service would only compound the issue. Fex Ex, etc do not service low profit areas.
    They pretty much service everywhere.
    If there are those remote, unserviced areas, USPS could pick up the slack but at home delivery is dumb and wasteful for common mail.
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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A lot of USPS employees are outrageously overpaid for what they do, not to mention their poor hours and service.
    I know not everyone experiences this but they should scale back home delivery and expand P.O. Box service, leaving package delivery to Fed Ex and UPS.
    amazing...

    Carriers Your mail carrier makes between $41,167 and $53,853 if he works full-time. Part-time carriers are paid an hourly rate between $20.58 and $21.49. Mail carriers also get additional compensation from overtime and night-shift different...

    Thats outrageously overpaid ? for working in all kinds of weather...and delivering your mail in a timely fashion everyday....Harry just what do you think everyone should get paid ? I mean this is all getting beyond ridiculous...

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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Here we go...of course its the workers fault...<eyeroll>
    do you have any clue what you are talking about?



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    Re: Should our USPS have greater say in its day to day operations ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    amazing...

    Carriers Your mail carrier makes between $41,167 and $53,853 if he works full-time. Part-time carriers are paid an hourly rate between $20.58 and $21.49. Mail carriers also get additional compensation from overtime and night-shift different...

    Thats outrageously overpaid ? for working in all kinds of weather...and delivering your mail in a timely fashion everyday....Harry just what do you think everyone should get paid ? I mean this is all getting beyond ridiculous...
    Yes it is.
    I would not pay letter carriers $20 an hour, it wouldn't even be offered.
    $11-15 is a good starting point per hour.

    The only mail that get delivered to me is junk mail, I use a P.O. Box.
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