Tired of elections being between the lesser of two evils.When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. -Socrates
Obama is bankrupting America so that he can replace the system with the failing system in Europe: Wealth redistribution.
Catch me if you can.
The best thing government can do for minorities is educate them and get the hell out of their lives otherwise.
I get what you're trying to say with the NBA, but actually, and unfortunately, the NBA has faced criticism for red-lining certain hometowns and being more sympathetic to drafting athletes from minority backgrounds. For that reason, I don't feel comfortable arguing on the premise of the NBA because it's also guilty of the same kind of discrimination I'm talking about. Black athletes do get favoritism to a degree, just like white rappers have to try 10x as hard to get recognition and respect in the music industry - even though so many white rappers have talent. Like the Rap world, Hip Hop is a cultural thing in a lot of respects. ---> Like I said, there's so many directions I can take with all your talking-points.
Is the system structured to be "race-neutral" like you said? Yes. But you have to understand that just because the black-and-white print defines a system of equality, that doesn't mean culturally it's actually executed that way. For example, 15 years ago, even though Consumer Lending policies were "race-neutral", it was common practice among Mortgage Lenders to Red-Line minority neighborhoods, defy policy, and purposely Decline those minorities for loans. This is a proven fact. Plus I am a Loan Officer - we are well aware of this detrimental practice against minorities...even though they were working under "Race-Neutral" policies.
About your 'De-Facto' example. What's scary is you just proved my point and don't realize.
You just stated yourself, the leniency on Minorities was called due to alleged discrimination. Again, like I've always stated, balancing the scales back to equal, considering they were tilted towards whites. It wasn't just a random, "hey, let's give minorities advantages, ya know, just because".
About Obama, I'm just not buying your argument that he's pushing race-based initiatives. I understand exactly what positioning you're taking, and anyone would be hard-pressed to express it as clearly as you have, but what you call race-based, I call minority-based. I just don't understand why you feel fighting for the working-class is some chant of "black power".
I especially take issue with your Mortgage arguments because again, I'm a Loan Officer and I've done mortgage lending and I assure you, there's nothing in the books that give any advantages to anyone. You don't know how heart-breaking it is for me to have to turn an older minority single-parent families away from their dream home because they don't fit credit criteria - but if I were to give any favors, I'd lose my job.
And as far as your last comment about Bush/Obama...you said nothing at all. You merely made the assertion that I didn't really make a point, but you made none at all.
There is a galaxy of difference between discrimination and an allegation of discrimination.
I can allege many things about you, even though I don't know anything about you. Of all of the things that I allege, none of them have to be true. Secondly, I can count on the allegations doing the damage without actually having to get around to, you know, actually proving that the allegations that I leveled against you are true.
This is a common tactic that comes from the racial hucksterism that Obama was schooled in.
Properties in minorities areas tend to have graffitti and are not in the best of condition.
I am not sure I would want to loan money on properties like that either.
New York Times:
The share of young black men without jobs has climbed relentlessly, with only a slight pause during the economic peak of the late 1990's. In 2000, 65 percent of black male high school dropouts in their 20's were jobless — that is, unable to find work, not seeking it or incarcerated. By 2004, the share had grown to 72 percent, compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts. Even when high school graduates were included, half of black men in their 20's were jobless in 2004, up from 46 percent in 2000.
Here is another report from the New York Times:
A new study of black male employment trends has come up with the following extremely depressing finding: ''By 2002, one of every four black men in the U.S. was idle all year long. This idleness rate was twice as high as that of white and Hispanic males.''
It's possible the rate of idleness is even higher, said the lead author of the study, Andrew Sum, who is director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston.
''That was a conservative count,'' he said. The study did not consider homeless men or those in jail or prison. It is believed that up to 10 percent of the black male population under age 40 is incarcerated.
While some of the men not working undoubtedly were ill or disabled, the 25 percent figure is still staggeringly high. And for some segments of the black male population, the situation is even worse.
Among black male dropouts, for example, 44 percent were idle year-round, as were nearly 42 of every 100 black men aged 55 to 64.
Data seems to confirm the poster's statement. Why should he be accused of trolling for making true and supportable statements? Just because he runs counter to the blowing sunshine up everyone's skirt political correctness that rots our minds? I hope not.