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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Yeah, the Dems and Obama are bankrupting America. And before them the Republicans were doing it. I don't think the Democrats and Obama want to destroy the economy, but their ideals and current methods aren't helping at all.
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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yeah, the Dems and Obama are bankrupting America. And before them the Republicans were doing it. I don't think the Democrats and Obama want to destroy the economy, but their ideals and current methods aren't helping at all.
    That pretty much sums it up in a fair manner...Obama and democrats want nothing more right now than the economy to flourish...if it stays like this they are cooked and they know it.

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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yeah, the Dems and Obama are bankrupting America. And before them the Republicans were doing it. I don't think the Democrats and Obama want to destroy the economy, but their ideals and current methods aren't helping at all.
    why would we even discuss the suggestion that high members of our political office want to destroy the country?

    think about the scary implications of what you're saying. if our leaders want to destroy our economy, they are essentially terrorists and that would call for nothing but revolution.

    you're making a pretty strong statement

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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by AdminX View Post
    Obama has consistently stated from Day 1 that his interests lie in the benefit of all Americans. That's it - Americans, specifically blue-collar. He has never isolated his interests or agendas to black people. I think the man is smart enough to realize that accusing him [a black man] of serving the interests of blacks, would be a likely accusation against him.

    And even with no substant proof, you're making that accusation.
    No proof? Have you paid any attention to the things he and the democrat party have done that disproportionately benefit blacks? Here are a few examples,

    - Signed executive order to gut the "workfare" requirement of the 1990's welfare reform
    - Giving another blank check to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Housing Authority to expand home "ownership" among lower-income people
    - Income redistribution on a massive scale (via tax hikes and stimulus bills -- and by the way, stimulus views vary by race, with African-Americans far more in favor of it than whites, Hispanics, or Native Americans)
    - Pigford Fraud (i.e., giving blacks federal farm subsidies for large scale "farming" such as a tomato garden in their back yard)
    - ObamaCare and Medicaid expansion despite all the polls showing that most Americans are happy with their own medical care and do not want the intrusion of government, the massive deficits, and the tax increases that will come with such "reform."
    - Dodd-Frank bill creates 20 Offices of "Minority Inclusion" at the various regulatory agencies, including the Treasury, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the 12 Federal Reserve banks and the newly created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by LibLoather View Post
    No proof? Have you paid any attention to the things he and the democrat party have done that disproportionately benefit blacks? Here are a few examples,

    - Signed executive order to gut the "workfare" requirement of the 1990's welfare reform
    - Giving another blank check to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Housing Authority to expand home "ownership" among lower-income people
    - Income redistribution on a massive scale (via tax hikes and stimulus bills -- and by the way, stimulus views vary by race, with African-Americans far more in favor of it than whites, Hispanics, or Native Americans)
    - Pigford Fraud (i.e., giving blacks federal farm subsidies for large scale "farming" such as a tomato garden in their back yard)
    - ObamaCare and Medicaid expansion despite all the polls showing that most Americans are happy with their own medical care and do not want the intrusion of government, the massive deficits, and the tax increases that will come with such "reform."
    - Dodd-Frank bill creates 20 Offices of "Minority Inclusion" at the various regulatory agencies, including the Treasury, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the 12 Federal Reserve banks and the newly created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
    And again I say, he is not trying to disproportionately benefit blacks. Everything you just listed addresses working class, lower-income Americans. Not blacks. You have to understand, it's not about race, it's about the financial welfare of Americans. If the bills he passes happen to cover blacks in the majority, that's inconsequential. Would it better if all of these things you listed were predominately helping whites, asians, latinos?

    There's always going to be a race that is benefited in the majority by some law. You can't just condemn him because his fight for lower-class Americans is helping blacks. And in reverse, you can't expect him to NOT fight for the working class or some special interest, simply because it does help blacks.

    You talk like Obama has to avoid every effort if somehow it's advantage goes mostly to blacks. Please rethink.

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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    The poll misspelled "Democratic."

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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Are the Democrat Party and Obama Deliberatley Bankrupting America?
    Yup, we are in a conspiracy with the Kenyan, you found us out!

    And, we are doing it "deliberatley."
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    I fear the swarm of stupid will only grow stronger as the election draws near.
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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    That pretty much sums it up in a fair manner...Obama and democrats want nothing more right now than the economy to flourish...if it stays like this they are cooked and they know it.
    Which is somewhat why the GOP is going to prevent as much job creating activity as they can possibly manage. What amuses me is the idiots who fall for the idea that only tax hikes will hurt the economy. Honestly, there is no reason for the GOP to actually try to improve the economy until November 3rd 2012 and they have plenty of reasons to hurt it the point where it will cost Obama reelection.
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    Re: Democrat Party and Obama Deliberately Bankrupting America

    Quote Originally Posted by LibLoather View Post
    No proof? Have you paid any attention to the things he and the democrat party have done that disproportionately benefit blacks? Here are a few examples,

    - Signed executive order to gut the "workfare" requirement of the 1990's welfare reform
    - Giving another blank check to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Housing Authority to expand home "ownership" among lower-income people
    - Income redistribution on a massive scale (via tax hikes and stimulus bills -- and by the way, stimulus views vary by race, with African-Americans far more in favor of it than whites, Hispanics, or Native Americans)
    - Pigford Fraud (i.e., giving blacks federal farm subsidies for large scale "farming" such as a tomato garden in their back yard)
    - ObamaCare and Medicaid expansion despite all the polls showing that most Americans are happy with their own medical care and do not want the intrusion of government, the massive deficits, and the tax increases that will come with such "reform."
    - Dodd-Frank bill creates 20 Offices of "Minority Inclusion" at the various regulatory agencies, including the Treasury, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the 12 Federal Reserve banks and the newly created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
    How was the Obama stimulus different than the Bush stimulus?
    Wasn't the Pigford decision made in 1999? Yes it was. How is that an example of Obama giving money to black people?
    Polls also show that Americans wanted health care reform.

    You'll notice that I didn't address all of your points and that I didn't provide any statistics. That's because this discussion is not worth me wasting my time thoroughly showing your argument to be absurd and false.

    Isn't Obama working with the Republicans to address government spending as we speak? Remember the repeated offers to make cuts to entitlement programs in exhange for increased revenues? That's what's happening here. Democrats don't want to cut entitlement programs unless Republicans agree to a tax increase for the wealthiest Americans. Your conspiracy theory is ridiculous.
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