Belgarath
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Look...this is getting ridiculous. We have too many abortion-related threads. I have written something like the equivalent of 5 pages on this subject. Can the Mods like merge these threads somehow or something? Because this is getting kinda ridiculous.
Noun: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
We should recognize that the unborn have a 50% chance of being persons, we already know they’re human, so we shouldn’t kill them anymore than we should kill anyone else. The only entities that should be granted this right are human beings. If you can’t prove they’re not human beings, though, you shouldn’t kill them.Should we recognize this 'right'? If so, why? And how do we determine what entities shall be granted this 'right'?
I didn’t say that. My argument is against taking a life that was created out of the consequences of your actions because you don’t like the consequences. You’re creating analogies that don’t correspond to anything I’m saying. I don’t mind people having sex in whatever manner whenever they please. I don’t mind people wearing helmets, seatbelts, or getting vaccinations. I have a very specific complain. Don’t kill people because of you don’t like the consequences of your actions.So we should ban contraceptives and HPV vaccines, lest people enjoy life and eachother without consequence? What about bicycle helmets, seatbelts in cars, and vaccinations against rabies?
I didn’t say any of that. None of that is killing someone. Are the smokers killing anyone by receiving treatment? Are you killing someone by replacing their hip? I didn’t think so. None of these actions have the possibility of killing a human being.So... should we not set broken bones or allow smokers to receive treatment for asthma or cancer? If you take a shower and slip and break a hip, we shouldn't let you seek medical attention?
Get your facts straight. There is no punishment involved. Those are the consequences of her actions. When she had sex, she opened up the possibility of bearing a child. She is free to have sex whenever and however she wants, using whatever contraceptives and whatnot she wants, but the only guaranteed way to not have a child is not to have sex. Becoming pregnant was a consequence of her choices. Killing a possible human being is not an appropriate response to any consequence.Why? Aside from your desire to punish her for her sexuality, I mean.
mur•der/ˈmərdər/Define: muder
Noun: The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
I responded to what murder is above. The unborn has the possibility of being human. Therefore, you are possibly killing a human being, possibly committing murder- I certainly do not approve.Is it murder to break a vase or step on an ant? Is it murder to kill you or bask ET's brains in with a bat for fun? We're back to the first question.