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  • Regardless of the womanís choice, men should choose whether their baby will be born or not

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  • A woman should be able to choose whether to give birth or not, regardless of the manís choice

    20 50.00%
  • If the man doesnít want a baby, he should be able to choose whether to give financial support or not

    20 50.00%
  • I am ďpro-choiceĒ (I think women should be able to choose to abort their babies if they want to)

    24 60.00%
  • I am "pro-life" (against abortion)

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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Why should he be able to just walk away? He wasn't interested in walking away from the act that created the child, why should he be able to just walk away from the child that was created? I'm not saying he has to be actively involved in the kid's life. In fact I think a lot of these kids would be better off if their dads weren't involved in their lives. However, there is still a financial responsibility there that should be required to be maintained.

    The idea that I can get a woman pregnant and simply say... "I don't want the kid. I'll sign away my rights and then not be financially responsible." is disgusting to me. The idea that any Man would do something like that is just unthinkable. Of couse we have a lot of little boys masquerading as Men these days.
    yeah, it's nearly as unthinkable as the woman being able to say, "I don't want the kid so I'll just run down and get an abortion".
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, it's nearly as unthinkable as the woman being able to say, "I don't want the kid so I'll just run down and get an abortion".
    It's not like it's some happy, wonderful joyous issue ot deal with.

    I plunged into depression - and stayed there - when I was pregnant with our fourth child. . . there were numerous times where I wished I wasn't pregnant - but I had a lot of health and other complications. In fact, I've never had a 'normal' pregnancy where I wasn't in the hospital for a million reasons. . . I think my health issues taint my views completely.
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    If a woman can end the pregnancy, it's only fair to allow the man a similar choice. What if he's not ready to be a father? As someone who experienced being abandoned as a child, I would have rather not even known the other parent at all. It was that painful.
    People are responsible for the consequences of their actions, whether they desired those consequences or not. The actions or inactions of others does not absolve them of their responsibilities.

    This is a long-standing legal principle, enshrined in our laws. For some reason, some men think they deserve "special rights" when they screw
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    For some reason, some men think they deserve "special rights" when they screw
    this is rich. some men think they deserve the same rights as women when they screw. nothing special, just the same.
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    this is rich. some men think they deserve the same rights as women when they screw. nothing special, just the same.
    Only if I get an orgasm every time I ****
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Only if I get an orgasm every time I ****
    then figure out how your **** works. why is it a man can cum no matter how ugly the girl is?
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    this is rich. some men think they deserve the same rights as women when they screw. nothing special, just the same.
    Men have the same right to screw as women do.

    Men have the same right to make medical decisions for themselves as women do

    Men have the same right to not have others make their medical decisions for themselves without their consent

    No one has the right to make medical decisions for others without the other persons consent
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then figure out how your **** works. why is it a man can cum no matter how ugly the girl is?
    That's just not true. Some men are indiscriminate. So are some women. Others....not so much

    Men who think all men can get off with any female, no matter how ugly, should be kept away from farm animals and household pets
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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    NM, that's a broad brush statement above...

    I love you, baby. I will be your man forever. I'll be there for you no matter what cuz I just love you so much. "NOW, GET THEM BRITCHES OFF"!

    WHAT? Your pregnant!

    That's bull****, you must have ****ed somebody else. That's not my kid. **** you, I'm out of here!

    The man still shouldn't have to pay child support?
    Nope.

    I don't make any exceptions for the woman's right to choose. None. Likewise, I won't make any exception with a man's right to decide whether he wants to be involved. People's rights are not conditional. And when we're talking about nearly 2 decades of financial servitude, I think getting to decide you fate on that is, indeed, a right.

    I do, however, think there should be a contractual signing that, once signed, is binding. It should be signed before birth - somewhere around 3-4 months seems reasonable to me.

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    Re: How do you feel about menís versus womanís rights to their babies?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Men have the same right to screw as women do.

    Men have the same right to make medical decisions for themselves as women do

    Men have the same right to not have others make their medical decisions for themselves without their consent

    No one has the right to make medical decisions for others without the other persons consent
    Not entirely true. With the exception of abortion, nobody under the age of 18 can consent for medical procedures without mutual parental consent. Why abortion is not included is disturbing to me; there are enough risks of complications and permanent damage from that procedure that the child should at least receive consent by proxy if a parent cannot be found or convinced to consent to the procedure.
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