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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I always find it interesting that those who want the rich to be taxed more so as to "decentralize wealth" in private hands are the same ones who want more and more centralized government
    So let me get this straight you are saying you want a Capitalistic government but you don't want to give people jobs to pay taxes to a Capitalistic government but you don't want to the rich corporations or rich to pay more taxes to a Capitalistic government.

    Question; where does this Capitalistic government get the taxes they need to preform?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    So let me get this straight you are saying you want a Capitalistic government but you don't want to give people jobs to pay taxes to a Capitalistic government but you don't want to the rich corporations or rich to pay more taxes to a Capitalistic government.

    Question; where does this Capitalistic government get the taxes they need to preform?
    Where does this concept of "giving" jobs come from

    jobs are nothing more than businesses or other entities needing a commodity known as labor. If they need more labor they create more jobs.

    a proper capitalistic government would be one fifth the size of the one we have today



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is confused and rambling--normally you are more lucid

    care for a 'do over'?
    Nah, that is unless you can say for certainty that workers had little knowledge of the labor movement or labor law.

    Care to make that statement?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, I don't know anything about broadway musicals, HVAC repair, tap dancing, or servicing hard drives.

    Labor law and labor history, have a masters in that
    So if you were on the streets with no address and no money or nobody to rescue you.

    You could make it, from what you post, don't think so.

    So be very thankful and hold on real tight to your status, cause out here in the real world you would not live past a day.

    Check the suicides after 1929 a lot of was rich, now broke was diving from buildings and using other forms.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Nah, that is unless you can say for certainty that workers had little knowledge of the labor movement or labor law.

    Care to make that statement?
    you think your average postal worker or UAW can discuss Gompers or Reuters or the conflict between mainline labor and communist labor or the Taft-hartley act vs Norris Laguardia?



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    So if you were on the streets with no address and no money or nobody to rescue you.

    You could make it, from what you post, don't think so.

    So be very thankful and hold on real tight to your status, cause out here in the real world you would not live past a day.

    Check the suicides after 1929 a lot of was rich, now broke was diving from buildings and using other forms.
    I am really good with a gun almost as much with a knife so if its apocalypse now its gonna get ugly

    I suspect I'd do pretty well against most of the people on this board.

    Its like one guy noted on another thread. He was saying he was stockpiling food and his "nutty" neigbor was stockpiling ammo. Then he realized that if the SHTF, the other guy would be doing the eating.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Where does this concept of "giving" jobs come from

    jobs are nothing more than businesses or other entities needing a commodity known as labor. If they need more labor they create more jobs.

    a proper capitalistic government would be one fifth the size of the one we have today
    With jobs comes tax revenue , product sales .
    Without jobs no tax revenue no product sales.

    Products are nothing that more than a consumer wanting to spend money to buy a product or any other product from any country.
    If they need more products they buy from who they choose but only if they need more products living beyond your means is not the right thing to do in a capitalist society.

    A proper Capitalist government would look out for itself not corporations or people that is capitalism, NOT BAILING OUT PRIVATE CORPORATIONS EVERYTIME THEY GET A TUMMY ACHE.

    AKA, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    With jobs comes tax revenue , product sales .
    Without jobs no tax revenue no product sales.

    Products are nothing that more than a consumer wanting to spend money to buy a product or any other product from any country.
    If they need more products they buy from who they choose but only if they need more products living beyond your means is not the right thing to do in a capitalist society.

    A proper Capitalist government would look out for itself not corporations or people that is capitalism, NOT BAILING OUT PRIVATE CORPORATIONS EVERYTIME THEY GET A TUMMY ACHE.

    AKA, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE.
    do you get the impression I am a big fan of bailouts

    Libs often whine about bailouts thinking they give government money to corporations and investors to the detriment of "workers" (many of whom aren't paying much of anything in federal taxes) but ignore the fact that bailouts help the workers as much or more than investors-especially rich investors who can eat a bad stock investment far easier than a UAW guy can afford losing 30 years of tenure at GM

    They also whine about bailouts for companies that have failed while demanding more and more entitlements for individuals who also have "failed" economically



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its a false choice
    How is it a false choice?
    Yes or no?


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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How is it a false choice?
    Yes or no?
    this thread is about tax cuts for the group that pays a huge amount of the taxes. You are making the faulty assumption that tax cuts will result in oligarchy



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