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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    My lot in life? You have no idea of what my "lot" in life is, so just as general information I did pretty good. Unlike you I don't think of only myself nor do I think of just mine who has also done very well in her life. I think of my country and what the future holds for those that I leave the American way of life to.

    I was not born sucking on the proverbal silver spoon, I have been very poor so I can relate, I was"lucky" enough to be able to work my way out and up. The freedoms we enjoy as Americans are great but with out the opportunity of descent paying employment opportunities what will those freedoms mean.
    Kudos for your post Earl. You have said quite eloquently what many of us feel. We have done well and we enjoy the benefits and privileges of both being an American but living at a very opportune time for ourselves. We worked hard and are more fortunate than most. But we also have a love for our nation and for the American people. We want to see a sustainable America and a successful economy for as many as possible.

    Some of us think of both the "I" and the "WE". And that is part of being an American.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    blah blah blah, unionista, blah blah blah....you make more, you pay more, get over it, dont like it, leave the country...your whole ' woe is me, i'm rich, boo hoo hoo, i'm taxed to much, boo hoo hoo' is hillarious. need a tissue?
    its you who needs the tissue. I thought you'd be down in cincinnati kissing up to Joe "the moron" Biden. He's at Coney Island slurping up to all the union types at the AFL CIO picnic. it will be a mutual admiration society of people who call each other "working people" when in reality union labor works less than just about any other class of employed person in the USA.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its you who needs the tissue. I thought you'd be down in cincinnati kissing up to Joe "the moron" Biden. He's at Coney Island slurping up to all the union types at the AFL CIO picnic. it will be a mutual admiration society of people who call each other "working people" when in reality union labor works less than just about any other class of employed person in the USA.
    lol.....son, i do more work in my first hour on the job, than you do all week. get over yourself.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    lol.....son, i do more work in my first hour on the job, than you do all week. get over yourself.
    sure you do

    I believe that I really do. the average associate at a decent size law firm puts in more hours in a week than many of you union types do in two or three. and they don't get "overtime" for it

    Unions-less work for more pay. a great system until competition raises up its global head and smacks overpriced American unionistas right in the face



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its better to suck on a silver spoon that was happily given than the public tit that is fueled by coercion
    Sadly Turtle, there is a handicap in both. America is a great nation for many reasons - one of which is America is the land of opportunity where persons can make all they can of themselves and achieve their potential. Not only does this enrich the individual and their family, but it has wider ripples than enrich the society. When one is dependent on the government - or as you colorfully like to put it - suckling on the public teat - that serves as a brake on individual development and serves to limit undeveloped potential which is a handicap both to the individual and the larger society. The same can be said for those who are born on third base and like to think they have hit a home run in life as they cross the plate. Regardless on what is being suckled - they are suckling just the same. I have said this before regarding this topic - I greatly respect the self made man or woman who rises from average or humble origins and achieves great things. It does not mean I agree with their politics or all their economic decisions to achieve their fortune - but I can respect their struggle and their rise to success.

    Sadly, I cannot say the same for those who inherit wealth and merely capitalize upon it, family connections and the network of the wealthy that is open to them and closed to most others. I realize that there are people who inherited wealth and also achieved in their own right. However, we will never ever know if they would have achieved had they been born into a humble or impoverished family and had been denied the advantages that they took as normal and due to them.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure you do

    I believe that I really do. the average associate at a decent size law firm puts in more hours in a week than many of you union types do in two or three. and they don't get "overtime" for it

    Unions-less work for more pay. a great system until competition raises up its global head and smacks overpriced American unionistas right in the face
    keep running your mouth, your just proving how ignorant you are about unions, and how little you know about them.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly Turtle, there is a handicap in both. America is a great nation for many reasons - one of which is America is the land of opportunity where persons can make all they can of themselves and achieve their potential. Not only does this enrich the individual and their family, but it has wider ripples than enrich the society. When one is dependent on the government - or as you colorfully like to put it - suckling on the public teat - that serves as a brake on individual development and serves to limit undeveloped potential which is a handicap both to the individual and the larger society. The same can be said for those who are born on third base and like to think they have hit a home run in life as they cross the plate. Regardless on what is being suckled - they are suckling just the same. I have said this before regarding this topic - I greatly respect the self made man or woman who rises from average or humble origins and achieves great things. It does not mean I agree with their politics or all their economic decisions to achieve their fortune - but I can respect their struggle and their rise to success.

    Sadly, I cannot say the same for those who inherit wealth and merely capitalize upon it, family connections and the network of the wealthy that is open to them and closed to most others. I realize that there are people who inherited wealth and also achieved in their own right. However, we will never ever know if they would have achieved had they been born into a humble or impoverished family and had been denied the advantages that they took as normal and due to them.
    I find your constant worrying about others inheriting wealth to be rather interesting and disturbing at the same time. It reminds me of Aesop's fable about the fox who lost his beautiful tail and then tried to convince those who still had them to cut their's off.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    keep running your mouth, your just proving how ignorant you are about unions, and how little you know about them.
    One huge part of anti-union sentiments as voiced in America and on this message board is simply part of being in the Jets or the Sharks. Those who are not in the union movement and whose jobs in fact benefits from a weakened or nonexistent union movement, adopt beliefs that simply are in their own self interest. It is not so much about ideology or philosophy - although they can be constructed as a rationalization for anti-unionism - as it is simply that if you are Puerto Rican you are a Shark and if you are White your lot has been cast with the Jets . And like the song says...
    "when you're a jet your a Jet all the way from your first cigarette to you're last dying day."
    For many here, it is just that simple. All the faux right wing ideology that is used to justify anti-unionism is just so much lipstick on the pig.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    keep running your mouth, your just proving how ignorant you are about unions, and how little you know about them.
    Poor Randel, I know as much or more about Unions than you do. I have a degree in that issue. and while unions once provided a proper counterbalance to predatory management, unions are nothing more than a drain on society these days-a drain that is becoming extinct with more and more globalization. No wonder the unions are fighting so hard to keep the taxpayer robbing public sector unions in place-the public sector is about the only area where competition cannot create the proper wage environment.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I find your constant worrying about others inheriting wealth to be rather interesting and disturbing at the same time. It reminds me of Aesop's fable about the fox who lost his beautiful tail and then tried to convince those who still had them to cut their's off.
    But I have never lost anything and still have my beautiful tail.

    One cannot help but notice you ignore the substance of my argument in favor of a clever drive-by line.
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