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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are so full of it! Disprove any of the statistics from Business Insider, if you can!
    when I post stuff that is of equal factual merit you avoid it. debating by proxy is lame. why don't you tell us in your own words why proof of the middle class disappearing is proven by say the amount of debt "keeping up with the Joneses" middle class families have accumulated?



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no one has come close to proving that because it requires massive assumptions and cherry picking the relevant states. but what we do know objectively is that

    the top one percent pay far more of the income tax burden than their share of the income. No other group pays such a wide differential and other than those in the top 5% every other group pays a LOWER SHARE of the income tax than their share of the income

    the actual dollars paid by the rich are such that the top 5% pay more federal income taxes than the rest of the country combined and the top 10% pay more federal taxes period than the rest of the country combined.

    coveting others wealth prevents people from admitting objective facts and forces them to make stuff up
    If in fact the rich pay more in taxes they should, why? Just follow the money trail the poor don't have it, the middle class don't have it so the rich must have it, now the only question is how did they accumulate the weath from the poor and middle class, the answer is they stole it by participating in the wall street ponzi schemes ie: derivatives and speculation. This is not rocket science all that has to happen is to drive the price of any life essential product or service up and it forces the middle class and poor to pay more that money goes right to the blood suckers who participate in those schemes

    Taxes on the wealthy that have participated in Wall Street schemes should be raised up enough to pay off the national debt and laws should be enacted regulating derivatives and speculation to ensure that 2008 never happens again

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so the UAW wasn't pushing for the government motors bailout?
    I'm from Michigan pal, the UAW sold out after Nafta was passed now it's run by puppets who take orders from corporations.

    Who benifited most from the bailout of GM the workers or the company?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    I'm from Michigan pal, the UAW sold out after Nafta was passed now it's run by puppets who take orders from corporations.

    Who benifited most from the bailout of GM the workers or the company?
    Not people like me who pay tons of taxes and don't own any GM stock



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    If in fact the rich pay more in taxes they should, why? Just follow the money trail the poor don't have it, the middle class don't have it so the rich must have it, now the only question is how did they accumulate the weath from the poor and middle class, the answer is they stole it by participating in the wall street ponzi schemes ie: derivatives and speculation. This is not rocket science all that has to happen is to drive the price of any life essential product or service up and it forces the middle class and poor to pay more that money goes right to the blood suckers who participate in those schemes

    Taxes on the wealthy that have participated in Wall Street schemes should be raised up enough to pay off the national debt and laws should be enacted regulating derivatives and speculation to ensure that 2008 never happens again
    that is just plain idiotic. many union pensions participated in what you call "wall street schemes"

    populist rot ranting about the "bankers" is silly



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am still asking why a hard working doctor or lawyer or small business owner should have his taxes jacked up when many other people are paying far less of the income burden than they have in the past
    Simple if many other people had jobs they could pay more taxes.

    Let Corporations get their taxes from the people working for them, sorry cheap foriegn labor don't pay American taxes.
    Oh well, I guess the burden will fall on those with jobs IRS and all that," speaking for the people without jobs in America due to outsourceing I say to the rich have fun filling out your taxes",those that may be unemployed but at least they won't have to worry about April 15th..
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Simple if many other people had jobs they could pay more taxes.

    Let Corporations get their taxes from the people working for them, sorry cheap foriegn labor don't pay American taxes.
    Oh well, I guess the burden will fall on those with jobs IRS and all that," speaking for the people without jobs in America due to outsourceing I say to the rich have fun filling out your taxes",those that may be unemployed but at least they won't have to worry about April 15th..
    so jacking up taxes on those who pay a ton of the taxes is going to create jobs for others?



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Henrin posted this about taxation in #634

    I would think by now people would realize what the qualifiers are, apparently they don't.
    I asked this question to Henrin as he raised the issue of what he called "qualifiers" ?

    And these all important "qualifiers" would be what exactly?

    and the reply from Henrin

    What is the purpose of taxes? Do you know?
    did I miss the part where you answered the question? Or do you unable to provide information on these "qualifiers" that you introduced into the discussion?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what the tax the rich more crowd (ie the leftwing moderate to fringe) haven't figured out is that taxing the rich more doesn't create jobs for the middle class and certainly doesn't motivate the poor and middle class to try to make it to the top.
    Uhh, it didn't create more jobs when they got bailouts , it wasn;t creating mre jobs befofre bailouts , it's not creating jobs now.

    So what's to lose more tax revenue???

    FYI, the poor and middle class "what's left of them" are already motivated to go to work , but where are the jobs?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Uhh, it didn't create more jobs when they got bailouts , it wasn;t creating mre jobs befofre bailouts , it's not creating jobs now.

    So what's to lose more tax revenue???

    FYI, the poor and middle class "what's left of them" are already motivated to go to work , but where are the jobs?
    I have to leave but tell me how will jacking up taxes on the top 2 percent create more jobs?



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