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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There are many political parties, but just two of them seem to be popular with the people. And there are sharp divisions between the two. One side believes in science and one side doesn't. One believes supporting the tax cuts for the wealthy and spending that benefits them, and the other supports programs for the working class and the poor, and wants to eliminate the tax cuts for the wealthy.

    It is my hope that eventually there are third parties that are not too extreme to gain support with American people, or that eventually people become enlightened enough to support a green party. From what I've seen on the forums though, I'm not holding my breath.
    Catawba, you need to remember though that there are folks from small towns - for instance - that vote GOP not because they're in favor of tax cuts for the rich, or that they hate poor people, or that they donít care about social welfare, but more so because they don't like Washington taking money out of their towns and spending it ways that are often frivolous and wasteful thousands of miles away. They want small government and would like to be able to manage as many issues as they can on their own, and who can blame them?

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Catawba, you need to remember though that there are folks from small towns - for instance - that vote GOP not because they're in favor of tax cuts for the rich, or that they hate poor people, or that they don’t care about social welfare, but more so because they don't like Washington taking money out of their towns and spending it ways that are often frivolous and wasteful thousands of miles away. They want small government and would like to be able to manage as many issues as they can on their own, and who can blame them?
    I have not seen this small government that you speak of from the last 30 years of Republicans in office. Do you mean there are folks from small towns that will fall for the same double talk the GOP has been pitching for decades? No doubt, but they are not the ones that will decide the election.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have not seen this small government that you speak of from the last 30 years of Republicans in office. Do you mean there are folks from small towns that will fall for the same double talk the GOP has been pitching for decades? No doubt, but they are not the ones that will decide the election.
    You have a point there Catawba, the GOP sure does know how to spend money.

    And Dick Cheney - That guy was an ***hole (just wanted to say this, even though it's kind of unrelated (but not totally)).

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    And Dick Cheney - That guy was an ***hole (just wanted to say this, even though it's kind of unrelated (but not totally)).
    Ah, Dick Cheney. I cannot wait for tomorrow when my download of the pre-sale on my Nook will be available. It ought to be a good read.: 2wave:

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Ah, Dick Cheney. I cannot wait for tomorrow when my download of the pre-sale on my Nook will be available. It ought to be a good read.: 2wave:
    Should we be surprised with your announced fascination of assholes?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Ah, Dick Cheney. I cannot wait for tomorrow when my download of the pre-sale on my Nook will be available. It ought to be a good read.: 2wave:
    Hmmm he use to live down the street from my parents house.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Should we be surprised with your announced fascination of assholes?
    To be honest, I wouldn't mind giving that book a read. But at the same time I'm not giving a cent of my money to that dirtbag.

    Can you believe it? CEO of Haliburton steps down, becomes the Vice President, invades Iraq,and awards Haliburton with no-bid contracts, all within a 3 year time span? To top it off, the company after making billions of money off of taxpayer money (for things like literally charging $100/load of laundry for each soldier), ships its operations off to the middle-east so it can avoid paying US taxes all together. What a sham!

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I reject that nonsense

    so does this guy

    The Inequity of the Progressive Income Tax | Hoover Institution

    Historically, the use of the benefits principle to advocate progression relied on the “protection theory” of benefits, which asserts that the government’s primary function is the protection of property. The theory focuses on income as property, and analogizes the protections of government to an insurance company that insures property against loss. Those who cite protection theory as an argument for progression assert that individuals with higher incomes should pay a disproportionately greater share of the cost of government than lower-income individuals because the higher-income group would have disproportionately more to lose if the protections of government were withdrawn. Implicit in this interpretation of the principle is not just that the value of benefits received from the government increases as income increases, but that it increases more rapidly than the rise in income. As we will see, the statement of the principle — payment of taxes in return for benefits — lends itself to widely varying interpretations.

    When examined carefully, the “protection theory” interpretation of the benefits principle falls short in five different ways.


    second interpretation of the benefits principle, and one that appears clearly to have more substance and more scholarly support, is that government benefits redound roughly equally to all people regardless of their income. More specifically, and as noted in the preceding paragraph, the value of benefits relating to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, including the protection of property, is essentially the same for all citizens. Thus, each person should share the costs of government equally, in which case the fairest tax would be per capita. This is essentially what Harry proposed to his brothers as the fairest way of dividing the costs of their street improvements.


    You can read the rest, it pretty well destroys that claim of yours
    I will read it, and respond back, but it is a courtesy on my part. It's your job to argue your positions.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    To be honest, I wouldn't mind giving that book a read. But at the same time I'm not giving a cent of my money to that dirtbag.

    Can you believe it? CEO of Haliburton steps down, becomes the Vice President, invades Iraq,and awards Haliburton with no-bid contracts, all within a 3 year time span? To top it off, the company after making billions of money off of taxpayer money (for things like literally charging $100/load of laundry for each soldier), ships its operations off to the middle-east so it can avoid paying US taxes all together. What a sham!
    All that death and debt to make some people more wealthy, and Clinton gets impeached for getting a blowjob.

    Have you seen this video? It points out the irony as well as anything I've seen or heard:

    *** WARNING ADULT LANGUAGE***

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    You don't like Cheney? Cool!

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