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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Here are some more cases below, and remember, these were just the folks that were caught:

    The Political Graveyard: Politicians in Trouble or Disgrace: Bribery
    This list is not even as strong as I thought it would be. It includes the following:

    People who were found not guilty:

    Eugene F. Vacheron of Ozone Park, Queens, Queens County, N.Y. Lawyer; member of , 1894-95, 1901 (Queens County 3rd District 1894-95, Queens County 2nd District 1901); resigned 1895; charged with bribery in 1895; tried and acquitted, but resigned from
    the Assembly;

    Edward L. Jackson (1873-1954)
    also known as Ed Jackson of New Castle, , Ind.; Indianapolis, Marion County, Ind.; Born in Charged with bribery; tried and found not guilty.

    People who were not elected Federal officials:

    Claude E. Negley of Indianapolis, Marion County, Ind. Born in , Ind. Republican., , 1927. Pleaded guilty in 1927 to bribery charges and fined.

    People where the outcome is unknown:

    Robert Philo Anibal (1845-1908) also known as Robert P. Anibal of Northville, Fulton County, N.Y.; Johnstown, Fulton County, N.Y. 1896; candidate for 4th District, 1901. In May 1901, the Herkimer County District Attorney accused him of offering a bribe to a ; Anibal denied this.

    Albert Alonzo Ames (1842-1911) also known as Albert A. Ames of Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minn. Born in Garden Prairie, Boone County, Ill., . Served in the Union Army during the Civil War; physician; member of 5th District, 1867; , 1876-77, 1882-84, 1886-89, 1901-02; resigned 1902; candidate for , 1886 (Democratic), 1896 (Independent); delegate to Democratic
    National Convention from Minnesota, 1888; indicted in 1902 on bribery charges, over a scheme to induce county commissioners to appoint his secretary

    Sorry, but the list shows that only a very, very few politicians ever become involved in bribery and when they do, I am not sure that any of the ones shown here are a quid pro quo of a campaign contribution for a vote.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, in my world, "minimum" doesn't have the same meaning as "living". Are you saying a 16 year old working at McDonalds should earn a "living" wage? Having said that, should anyone working there make a "living" wage? When push comes to shove, they could take the illegal Mexican model and just pack into a small apartment like sardines.

    By the way. Do you know how many people making minimum wage are raising families on it? Less than one-sixth. Hardly a concern.

    Guess they shoulda thought about that before they fumbled through high school getting stoned.
    Most of the new jobs in Texas, that are not new public jobs, are minimum wage jobs. Is this what you propose for the rest of the country? This is your ideal of the new middle class standard so the rich can gain even more of the country's wealth than the 85% they already own?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    That's misleading. Of course there are lots of minimum wage jobs being created. Wanna guess which age category carries the highest rate of unemployment? Here's a hint - the letters "teen" show up somewhere. The bulk of jobs created for the largest unemployment demographic are the only jobs they can do. By the way, when politicians say "minimum wage jobs", it's not literal. Many retail and fast food joints pay comfortably above minimum wage. It's just a demagougery buzzword.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That's misleading. Of course there are lots of minimum wage jobs being created. Wanna guess which age category carries the highest rate of unemployment? Here's a hint - the letters "teen" show up somewhere. The bulk of jobs created for the largest unemployment demographic are the only jobs they can do. By the way, when politicians say "minimum wage jobs", it's not literal. Many retail and fast food joints pay comfortably above minimum wage. It's just a demagougery buzzword.
    So this is your ideal income disparity?

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    I don't give a damn about income disparity. I think more people would be better off if they shut up and worried more about themselves than what Fat Cat Wallstreet does.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't give a damn about income disparity. I think more people would be better off if they shut up and worried more about themselves than what Fat Cat Wallstreet does.
    Does this mean that you don't believe in equal opportunity or you just believe that all of our income disparity is completely due to individual differences in qualities such as I.Q., charisma, drive, originality, economic prowess, etc. ? Please remember equal opportunity and equal outcome are not the same; while I agree there should be a significant amount of income disparity, I feel like our current income disparity is due to a lack of equal opportunity. A country with true equal opportunity would have a less severe income disparity as while not all humans are equally capable, intelligent, driven etc., the differences in such traits are not as severely different as one would think (as long as we are talking about those within the "normal" I.Q. range)

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Number 1 is correct. Very good.
    Number 2 is not accurate. Actually, a company can have tons of customers and lose money, where a smaller company can make money if they manage their business correctly.

    If what you mean by "dog eat dog," you mean that companies need to continually improve their products or services, expand their line, or manage their business better so that consumers will continue to want their products or services, then you would be correct. That makes "dog eat dog" a good thing.
    Customers or cosumers either way you slice it.

    It's all about the money if companies big or small got no customers or as you say consumers they have more inventory and less retail sales, in short black ink turns red ink .

    If dog eat dog is such a good thing then American corporations won't mind seeing their customers or consumers buying and investing in foriegn products instead of American products, or is that advertisment money just a tax write off?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    The richest man in America turned a five thousand dollar loan in the mid 70s into a Seattle juggernaut. During the World War 2 effort, a man spent twenty-five grand to own an Arkansas thrift shop and turned it into more money than King Midas could make. If we didn't reduce corporate tax strangleholds, who knows what may have happened here?

    I'm sorry not all men are created equal. I don't have a problem with a man creating his own destiny and determining his own worth without interference from a giant Washington bully playing Robin Hood with someone else's entrepreneurial ability. If this means one man owns a 50,000 square foot house while another has to dredge his life at Burger King for 40 years, so be it. There is nothing greedy about keeping what you earn, nor is there anything noble in taking something from someone to give to another.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The richest man in America turned a five thousand dollar loan in the mid 70s into a Seattle juggernaut.
    I'm curious ... how did that person acquire the loan? Additionally, I have heard of many people winning the lottery as well, however, I'm not sure that had anything to do with them being superior to others in any way.

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    I'm sorry not all men are created equal.
    Couldn't agree with you more

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I don't have a problem with a man creating his own destiny and determining his own worth without interference from a giant Washington bully playing Robin Hood with someone else's entrepreneurial ability. If this means one man owns a 50,000 square foot house while another has to dredge his life at Burger King for 40 years, so be it. There is nothing greedy about keeping what you earn, nor is there anything noble in taking something from someone to give to another.
    OK, but conceptually, do you agree or disagree with the governments current position on preventing monopolies?

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your analogy is stupid I said I value my property more than I value your life. that is not the same as saying killing over pure property is right. You did not accurately read my posts (big surprise)

    I should have no duty to sacrifice my property to help you. and you should not have to do that for me either
    So if all poor, blue collar,lower middle class stop buying and investing in American products you would have no problem with that.

    For it is as you say it is not your duty to help them., then why should it be their duty to help corporate, big business or Wall street, or for that matter you.
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