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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Don't move the goal posts to hide your hypocrisy. You didn't say anything about taxes. You said "that money is more valuable than some people!" You have money, you're spending money to buy entertainment. People in Africa are dying and they wouldn't be if you sent them all of your money. You're not sending them all of your money. Ergo, you find that your money is more valuable than some people. Own up to it. The case is crystal clear. You can't talk your way out of the standards that you yourself set down.
    Context is everything. Unfortunately when you jump into a discussion of which you know nothing about the history, you miss all that. When Turtledude made the statement that he valued money more than some people, we were discussing taxes, not emergency relief. Not that I am opposed to providing emergency relief with tax dollars. However, Turtledude would be opposed, as he considers his money far too valuable to be taxed to help people in need.

    Now if you wish to change goal posts and talk about personal contributions for relief efforts around the globe we can do so.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Context is everything. Unfortunately when you jump into a discussion of which you know nothing about the history, you miss all that. When Turtledude made the statement that he valued money more than some people, we were discussing taxes, not emergency relief. Not that I am opposed to providing emergency relief with tax dollars. However, Turtledude would be opposed, as he considers his money far too valuable to be taxed to help people in need.

    Now if you wish to change goal posts and talk about personal contributions for relief efforts around the globe we can do so.
    as usual you try to change what others have said.

    and you make the specious assertion that taxation is helping people in need at this point



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I take it the support of Lincoln isn't good enough for you is it? Okay, well how about the fact that it is the working class who makes the products that the capitalists sell. If it were not for the working class, the capitalists would have nothing. They rely on labor to build their products. That is why strikes are such an effective tactic, because they deprive the capitalists of their source of labor and thus drain them of their abilty to produce. If labor was not so important strikes would not as effective as they are.
    They get paid in salary and benefits, what more do you want? You think they were working for free or what? Working people can also become capitalists.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They get paid in salary and benefits, what more do you want?
    It all comes down to some people are mad about the market's going rate for the worth of their skills and they think they should be paid more. Nothing more, nothing less



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It all comes down to some people are mad about the market's going rate for the worth of their skills and they think they should be paid more. Nothing more, nothing less
    That's why they don't like capitalism.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It all comes down to some people are mad about the market's going rate for the worth of their skills and they think they should be paid more. Nothing more, nothing less
    What makes you think your skills are any more valuable then a person who digs a ditch? Can you dig a ditch? Can you fix a car, can you change a tire or program a controller? What is so special about you that you think you are any more valuable to society then any one else is?

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So did your hero Reagan. He was the one that started all this "massive spending"...
    It was not President Reagan that started the massive spending. Democrats controlled both houses of Congress then. Congress controls the spending. They are responsible, not President Reagan.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    He spent more than every president before him combined and he tripled the deficit.
    The "He" above refers to President Reagan. President Obama's deficits make Deficits from the 80's seem mighty small.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Why would a small percentage of a millionaire's income disable them from buying? This makes no sense. Sure, if they were actually spending all their money, then they would not be able to buy more products, however, we know that they aren't spending much at all. Do you propose that the millionaires decide not to buy out of spite for the governments tax policies?
    IT's the uncertainity of it all. They hesitate to invest in these financially shaky times.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    All three of our great presidents FDR, RR and BHO INCREASED goverment spending to get the economy going again- the stand out difference is that FDR and RR had the support of the people at least in the beginning BHO has had to fight almost every step of the way with the republicans
    You picked the wrong 3 Presidents. John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush all knew that cutting taxes would stimulate the economy and actually result in higher revenue for the government.

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