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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There, there, now................don't cry.



    Your daddy will return your 3% tax cut when we have lowered our debt.
    another bit of infantile nonsense. we won't lower our debt because the dems will spend more than even the most optimistic revenue increases that will come from tax hikes and tax hikes will be used by dems to justify more spending



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Well I've cruised through the post of this thread.

    Many have given differant opinions, but one caught my eye above the rest.

    It was said that the working class are not paying their fair share of taxes.

    My response to that would be who is?

    However, perhaps I can shead some light on the subject of the working class not paying their fair share of taxes.

    To pay income taxes, you must have an income, to have an income you must have a job.
    6.3 million people have not worked in 6 months , that's in one state.

    If corporate CEOS or rich want the working class to pay more taxes provide more jobs.

    One other thing the corporate .private sector might remember every working class citizen is a customer.

    Without customers profits will slide in the corporate sector., and with globalization coming other countries are just waiting for American customers.
    you claim people need jobs to pay taxes which is true

    however you seem to think people have a right to demand more and more government that they themselves cannot afford

    if you cannot afford to pay taxes for what you use you should stop demanding others pay for what you want



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another bit of infantile nonsense. we won't lower our debt because the dems will spend more than even the most optimistic revenue increases that will come from tax hikes and tax hikes will be used by dems to justify more spending
    The Dems spend no more than the GOP, they just have different priorities. I support cutting $350 billion a year in wasteful military spending. Discontinue the tax cuts for the rich and that's another $100 billion a year in deficit reduction. That is almost a half trillion a year in deficit reduction, which is more than anything suggested by the GOP, and we place no further hardship in those who are already suffering.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you claim people need jobs to pay taxes which is true

    however you seem to think people have a right to demand more and more government that they themselves cannot afford

    if you cannot afford to pay taxes for what you use you should stop demanding others pay for what you want
    Please translate when you have sobered up. No one knows what the hell that is supposed to mean. LOL!
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please translate when you have sobered up. No one knows what the hell that is supposed to mean. LOL!
    People who can read and think free of emotion do. If you cannot afford more and more government you shouldn't want others to pay for it when you cannot



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    People who can read and think free of emotion do. If you cannot afford more and more government you shouldn't want others to pay for it when you cannot
    Are you saying you are against democracy or that you are against voting rights for all, i.e. you would rather that those who pay the most taxes have the most voting power? If this is correct, I don't know what you are complaining about as currently corporations (the biggest tax payers) have more power than the government itself ... they are essentially extremely powerful mobs. Again, given what it seems you are asking, I don't think you have anything to complain about.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by piper98044 View Post
    Ikari,

    We do not have the lowest tax rate for corporations. It is our tax rates, unions, and government mandated unemployment and other programs that are hurting big business in the US. I live in Vermont and we had, for the longest time, housed some very successful and large companies. We were the home to such companies as Ben and Jerry's ice cream, Burton snowboard, and IBM. Every since we began leaning on these companies for more tax revenue they have slowly disappeared. Burton is outsourcing to India, IBM is consistently laying off workers and sending jobs out of state and out of country, and Ben and Jerry's sold the company to an out of state company. Our pressuring of increase tax has forced businesses to run from the state.
    This is what is happening on the federal level now. It is impossible for US based companies to compete globally when the overhead of their competitors is a fraction of the US companies'. So the rich that are in charge of these corporations are making big bucks, but is it not their right to do so? Did we not grow as an economy and an economic leader in the global market by being the land of opportunity and growth? Are you suggesting we become more like China and have the government regulate our income and finances? If we want to remain a leader in today’s world we need to have a foundation that encourages growth and provides opportunity for financial stability and prosperity. It is my view that I know what I want and how to get it better then the government. The best way for the government to be of help to us is to get out of the way.
    Please. Other places like Germany have much higher tax rates, much stronger regulation of business (including safety and worker compensation), have universal health care, etc. Their companies are not fleeing from Germany to produce other places. Europe in general has higher tax rates and more social programs including things such as universal healthcare and they are doing alright. Why there and not here? Other than our corporations hold no loyalties anymore and will ship production off to any country which will allow near slave labor?

    I say let these companies go. When they're out; hike up tariffs. Rich people aren't special because they are rich; we can replace them. Plenty of people in line who want to be rich in America and will be willing to follow the law.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    2) high death and income taxes prevent others from making it to the top.
    Others already have a hard time making it to the top due to the mixing of government and corporation. Economic mobility is being bred out through law and corporate practices. The days where any man can pull himself up by the bootstraps and make a fortune are coming to a close. It's not entirely impossible just yet; but getting there.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you claim people need jobs to pay taxes which is true

    however you seem to think people have a right to demand more and more government that they themselves cannot afford

    if you cannot afford to pay taxes for what you use you should stop demanding others pay for what you want
    I demand nothing but my point is not class warfare or the old blame game.


    The point I was making at the time of this post was if working people don't have jobs not only do they not pay taxes they don't buy or invest.
    Check the stock market this morning did ya?

    If the working class goes down the boys on Wall street will eventualy start to sweat,the corporations inventory will get bigger each year.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    People who can read and think free of emotion do. If you cannot afford more and more government you shouldn't want others to pay for it when you cannot
    Funny I thoght it said "WE THE PEOPLE" not "WE THE RICH"
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