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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I'm sorry, I'd much rather you have to wait a little longer, so we can make sure everyone gets covered. 30,000 people die every year in this country because they can't afford healthcare. 1 in 4 Americans who have insurance still don't get the care they need. Secondly, I'm sure the 6 month wait are either an exaggeration on your part or cheery picking.

    sorry dude, If I can afford good healthcare, I don't want to wait behind someone whose health care I fund. Same with my kid, if the choice comes down to my son getting a CAT SCAN today that might save his life or you getting one paid for by my tax dollars I don't even have to think a second what I am going to take



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah so why would I want canadian style healthcare?
    If you are one of the minority of rich people, you probably wouldn't as you can afford the most expensive health care system in the world. It is the working class and the poor who are affected, and they will be the ones to force correction.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have an objective basis for my claim

    if you are part of a group that pays less of the federal income tax burden than your share of the income I can honestly note you are paying less than your fair share

    Since you refuse to even state what you pay, and given your constant rants about the rich and your laughable lamentations about how bad "working people" have it its a fair assumption you are part of the group that pays less taxes than it objectively should
    Turtle im going to try this just once...

    Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sorry dude, If I can afford good healthcare, I don't want to wait behind someone whose health care I fund. Same with my kid, if the choice comes down to my son getting a CAT SCAN today that might save his life or you getting one paid for by my tax dollars I don't even have to think a second what I am going to take
    So you're saying you don't mind if 30,000 people die as long as you don't have to wait or pay more taxes? Your greed is disgusting. It's clear you have no concern for your fellow man. It's all about you.

    Your contempt for the poor is a very dangerous mindset, history has shown that eventually the oppressed do rise up against their oppressors and their money won't save them.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle im going to try this just once...

    Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..
    Taxes are not the only factor that is at work here. For instance, the apartment rent is a function of land and building scarcity. The US population in 1950 was 152 million. It is currently 308 million. If there was no immigration during that period, the US population today would be perhaps 200 million. Increasing the size of the country by 50% imposes costs on everyone. Land is scarcer, and therefore more expensive. More roads and infrastructure have to be built meaning taxes go up meaning that there is less money available for income redistribution.

    Immigration rates are not some unalterable force of nature while tax rates are something that can be changed on a whim.

    That low wage Jersey worker is suffering the consequences from liberal policy choices - job scarcity because of high immigration, high rents because of land scarcity, high taxes because of ever expanding infrastructure requirements, etc. Liberal policies have made his life worse and removed him from being a net contributor to society. The goal is to make him a net contributor to society but first we have to stop liberal attempts to make the lives of Americans worse off so that they can improve the lives of immigrants who invite themselves into America.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle im going to try this just once...

    Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..

    why are they having two kids if that is the most they can make?



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    So you're saying you don't mind if 30,000 people die as long as you don't have to wait or pay more taxes? Your greed is disgusting. It's clear you have no concern for your fellow man. It's all about you.

    Your contempt for the poor is a very dangerous mindset, history has shown that eventually the oppressed do rise up against their oppressors and their money won't save them.
    greed is imposing costs on other people who are not responsible for your condition.

    go ahead and riot and rise up dude. after that happens we net tax payers will have far less tax consumers to have to deal with



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are they having two kids if that is the most they can make?
    Human biology. Humans are wired to reproduce. It's a fact.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are they having two kids if that is the most they can make?
    Are there no workhouses, are there no prisons? Why should the rich have to give up their $58,000 average tax cut each year?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are there no workhouses, are there no prisons? Why should the rich have to give up their $58,000 average tax cut each year?
    If I have to support that dude's children does that mean I get bedroom privileges with his wife? I get those privileges with my wife for supporting our children.

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