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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! So according to the Turtledude, we only have freedom if the wealthy own 85% of the wealth?

    You have an "interesting" definition of freedom!
    You have the freedom to rent to own!!!!!

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    for this to have any validity you would have to show that those who pay the lions's share of the taxes got more from the government than they paid in taxes which would be tough because just about every other group are mainly net tax consumers. 60% of so of Americans have more direct government spending on them than they pay in taxes for example
    Well, lets see there's lobbyist, there's government no bid contracts, there's the zoning situation., government grants Bailouts.ect
    The large amount going out to unemployment and and the poor could be, maybe because there is no jobs
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There are hundreds of different kinds of lawyers

    1) the one most people think of are prosecutors and criminal defense attorneys

    2) then you have plaintiff's attorneys-a major source of cash for the Dem party and civil defense attorneys (which is a major part of what I do). Many civil defense attorneys are also dems because the threat of big lawsuit verdicts justify their fees (at least to them)

    a) medical malpractice

    b) product liability

    c) civil torts-ie personal injuries

    d) civil rights are all subsets of plaintiff/civil defense work

    3) then you have compliance attorneys-they deal with all the government regulations

    4) then there are standard corporate attorneys who review and draft contracts for companies

    5) labor and employment law attorneys-they may be trial attorneys handling employment or employment discrimination cases or negotiating collective bargaining agreements etc

    6) probate and estate attorneys, wills, trusts deeds, etc

    7) tax attorneys-both civil and criminal defense

    8) Domestic relations attorneys-divorce, custody, name changes etc

    9) environmental attorneys-compliance, civil and criminal defense etc

    10) real estate- dealing with building issues, zoning regulations land use matters

    11) construction litigation and contracts-

    12) bankruptcy attorneys-has both civil and criminal areas

    13) Intellectual property attorneys, patents, trademarks-both applying for and registering patents, trademarks or litigation of infringements etc

    14) entertainment law attorneys.

    now that's just a few areas I can think of without much effort
    And to think the right complains about too many lawsuits by stupid people driven by crooked lawyers.
    Then there's the flipside I'm sure many a drug dealer, criminal faction are very close to lawyers, getting them off on a tecnicality.
    I bet Limbaugh and Foley had good lawyers, as did Cunningham
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Bill Maher provides an excellent description here of the living nightmare the rich live through every day at the prospect of a slightly higher tax rate:

    Video: New Rules with Bill Maher, Republican Greed, Sept 24, 2010 - Kick! Making Politics Fun - A liberal dose of political humor
    That was cool it would make a good opening argument in the Republican debate presented by Trump of course. lol
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You have the freedom to rent to own!!!!!
    I think it would help if you had a job before you rent to own , might help don't you think.

    Maybe that's why the Real estate is down , nobody's renting to own .lol,lol
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Well, lets see there's lobbyist, there's government no bid contracts, there's the zoning situation., government grants Bailouts.ect
    The large amount going out to unemployment and and the poor could be, maybe because there is no jobs
    complete fail. most of the rich never benefited from any of that.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    And to think the right complains about too many lawsuits by stupid people driven by crooked lawyers.
    Then there's the flipside I'm sure many a drug dealer, criminal faction are very close to lawyers, getting them off on a tecnicality.
    I bet Limbaugh and Foley had good lawyers, as did Cunningham
    this is a silly rant from you. try again.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    complete fail. most of the rich never benefited from any of that.
    Powerful companies (and their owners) never benefit financially from lobbying?

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    complete fail. most of the rich never benefited from any of that.
    So you're telling me that Haliburtian didn't benifit frm getting a no bid contract?

    You're telling me that the ceo's of Bear Sterns, AIG ,FREDDY MAC ,FANNY MAE GMC ect GOT NOTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT?

    Cheap labor high prices low taxes the corporations don't cash in on that ?
    Without outsourceing there would be no free trade
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Powerful companies (and their owners) never benefit financially from lobbying?
    The claim is that the richest set of taxpayers (who pay a huge amount of the income tax) somehow get more government benefits than the people who pay less than them (Ie the bottom 89% or so) is based on such specious claims.

    The majority of those in the top tax bracket are not getting such benefits from lobbying and that is not a government given benefit anyway



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