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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why not send those too stupid to make it to college/ save the smart people for jobs that require intelligence and use the dullards for cannon fodder
    College doesn't require brains or intelligence... it only requires money and perseverance.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you don't get it. I don't believe that a government has the proper power to draft people or tax them at the rates you want. You seem to worship an all powerful government. Those of us who are productive and resourceful tend to loathe big overly powerful government
    Seems like a lot of corporations and banks was kissing governments all powerfull ass when their profits started to slip.

    If all of you loathe a big overly powerful government you might try not taking things out.
    I have a list where government money went to provate corporations I'll compare it anytime.
    Don't give me graphs and right wing paper lets talk cash.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sadly for you, good ones make more in a month than you make in a year. No wonder you are upset.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but lawyers make their money from defending who?
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what is funny is that you have spent several posts whining about the rich having too much money and wanting to impose higher taxes and involuntary servitude on others and then you come back with this rot
    You're right Earlzp should not be whining about the rich having too much money.

    He should pity the rich for they won't have as much in the future.

    Like I said you can cut education, welfare, unemployment job training programs that's chump change.

    You start cutting Pentagon, CIA, DEA FBI, HOMELAND SECURITY POLICE AND FIRE AIRPORT SECURITY AND POLITICIANS and their salaries you gonna hit a brick wall and that's where the big money is .
    With less work comes less people to pay taxes, tax revenue must be kept up to meet these so where will it come from.
    The poor lol
    The working poor lol
    The lower middle class not likely
    The middle class sure if you want to commit political suicide
    Who does that leave.
    The last budget passed by a hair, things go the way they are next time it won't be so lucky, think higher taxes .. uhh for thoes that have jobs.
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Razor View Post
    College doesn't require brains or intelligence... it only requires money and perseverance.
    I would agree for attendance

    to do well you are completely wrong.



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Seems like a lot of corporations and banks was kissing governments all powerfull ass when their profits started to slip.

    If all of you loathe a big overly powerful government you might try not taking things out.
    I have a list where government money went to provate corporations I'll compare it anytime.
    Don't give me graphs and right wing paper lets talk cash.
    for this to have any validity you would have to show that those who pay the lions's share of the taxes got more from the government than they paid in taxes which would be tough because just about every other group are mainly net tax consumers. 60% of so of Americans have more direct government spending on them than they pay in taxes for example



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but lawyers make their money from defending who?
    There are hundreds of different kinds of lawyers

    1) the one most people think of are prosecutors and criminal defense attorneys

    2) then you have plaintiff's attorneys-a major source of cash for the Dem party and civil defense attorneys (which is a major part of what I do). Many civil defense attorneys are also dems because the threat of big lawsuit verdicts justify their fees (at least to them)

    a) medical malpractice

    b) product liability

    c) civil torts-ie personal injuries

    d) civil rights are all subsets of plaintiff/civil defense work

    3) then you have compliance attorneys-they deal with all the government regulations

    4) then there are standard corporate attorneys who review and draft contracts for companies

    5) labor and employment law attorneys-they may be trial attorneys handling employment or employment discrimination cases or negotiating collective bargaining agreements etc

    6) probate and estate attorneys, wills, trusts deeds, etc

    7) tax attorneys-both civil and criminal defense

    8) Domestic relations attorneys-divorce, custody, name changes etc

    9) environmental attorneys-compliance, civil and criminal defense etc

    10) real estate- dealing with building issues, zoning regulations land use matters

    11) construction litigation and contracts-

    12) bankruptcy attorneys-has both civil and criminal areas

    13) Intellectual property attorneys, patents, trademarks-both applying for and registering patents, trademarks or litigation of infringements etc

    14) entertainment law attorneys.

    now that's just a few areas I can think of without much effort



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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That isn't the issue. I believe in freedom and I oppose the schemes people like you want to change things

    such as more government, more taxation

    LOL! So according to the Turtledude, we only have freedom if the wealthy own 85% of the wealth?

    You have an "interesting" definition of freedom!
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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There are hundreds of different kinds of lawyers

    1) the one most people think of are prosecutors and criminal defense attorneys

    2) then you have plaintiff's attorneys-a major source of cash for the Dem party and civil defense attorneys (which is a major part of what I do). Many civil defense attorneys are also dems because the threat of big lawsuit verdicts justify their fees (at least to them)

    a) medical malpractice

    b) product liability

    c) civil torts-ie personal injuries

    d) civil rights are all subsets of plaintiff/civil defense work

    3) then you have compliance attorneys-they deal with all the government regulations

    4) then there are standard corporate attorneys who review and draft contracts for companies

    5) labor and employment law attorneys-they may be trial attorneys handling employment or employment discrimination cases or negotiating collective bargaining agreements etc

    6) probate and estate attorneys, wills, trusts deeds, etc

    7) tax attorneys-both civil and criminal defense

    8) Domestic relations attorneys-divorce, custody, name changes etc

    9) environmental attorneys-compliance, civil and criminal defense etc

    10) real estate- dealing with building issues, zoning regulations land use matters

    11) construction litigation and contracts-

    12) bankruptcy attorneys-has both civil and criminal areas

    13) Intellectual property attorneys, patents, trademarks-both applying for and registering patents, trademarks or litigation of infringements etc

    14) entertainment law attorneys.

    now that's just a few areas I can think of without much effort
    Seems like they got a good gig going supported ultimately by the tax payers dollars in laws of court.

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    Re: What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    You know it hasn't been that long ago when you said "only the poor was indolent and slothful, then it was the poor working class that was slothful, now you're saying the middle class is indolent and slothful?

    That would make a good quote on the campaign trail I can see it now.

    REPUBLICAN'S SAY MIDDLE CLASS IS INDOLENT AND SLOTHFUL.

    Why don't you make a blog of that or paste it on facebook or maybe challenge the parties running against Republicans with that statement.lol



    Bill Maher provides an excellent description here of the living nightmare the rich live through every day at the prospect of a slightly higher tax rate:

    Video: New Rules with Bill Maher, Republican Greed, Sept 24, 2010 - Kick! Making Politics Fun - A liberal dose of political humor
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