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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    In America, when a person works all his/her life paying into soc. sec, he or she has the right to receive some back no matter the amount. It could be, one of these days, possibly a couple decades from now, it won't be around and then everyone can bitch and whine about that. I won't be around then but I wish I could be a spider on the wall listening to people crying in their beer because the money was stolen and the fund dismantled, so to speak, leaving a kazillion people in the lurch wishing they had that money to help make their lives just a tad easier. Getting some soc. sec. might be the deciding factor as to whether or not they will have food in their fridges, or if they'll be able to pay some on their heating bill. Or could be it'll keep them from having to sit in the dark.

    It doen't matter whether some are "parasites". If they worked for decades paying into it, then they have a right to it. Speaking of parasites, I have seen an endless supply of 30's and 40's somethings, both working and not working, that are sucking off the government tit. I don't know how they're doing it while working tho'. Must be getting paid under the table. Whenever there are handouts, you can count on leaches being there draining the system any way they can. They've learned how to play the system.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    Considering the amount of money that people pay into the soc. sec from every paycheck, whatever they receive back when they get older, is only a pitance of what they've paid in. One is apt to not live long enough to draw every dime he/she has involuntarily been made to pay into it. And if the powers that be, would keep their greedy hands off of it, or at the very least, pay back what they steal from it, there would be no problem with soc. sec. Also, sit in the waiting room and check out the ages of many that are getting money that have not even come close to retirement age and look able bodied enough to be out working. Hmmmmm.......scam jobs. They've figured out a way to steal money from those that have paid into all their working lives. I can also smell the stench of mega soc sec bucks being handed over to illegals..... And yet..........many think the elderly aren't worthy of drawing what is theirs...........Bruhahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... .Give me a break......
    Those people paid in a few bucks each paycheck, and will draw hundreds each month. When seniors were in the workforce, the cost of living was much lower, and the dollar was worth more.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Those people paid in a few bucks each paycheck, and will draw hundreds each month. When seniors were in the workforce, the cost of living was much lower, and the dollar was worth more.
    If you think drawing "hundreds" (prob'ly 400-500) is enough for them to live off for a month, then try doing it. You will quickly learn that no matter what your age, the bills keep rolling in. So $500 a month is a pitance. Even if they are living in their childs home, there is still money needed for personal care, food, clothing, and possibly chipping in for heat and electric. So a mere few hundred isn't going to go very far.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    If you think drawing "hundreds" (prob'ly 400-500) is enough for them to live off for a month, then try doing it. You will quickly learn that no matter what your age, the bills keep rolling in. So $500 a month is a pitance. Even if they are living in their childs home, there is still money needed for personal care, food, clothing, and possibly chipping in for heat and electric. So a mere few hundred isn't going to go very far.
    Sounds like you should have taken a little more responsibility for yourself and better planned for your retirement.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...its not a 'typical poor person'. Nor did I claim it to be a typical poor person but hey...lets just ignore the fact that there are thousands and thousands just like this or in varying forms. Lets pretend that every 'poor person' is just simply a truly needy and disabled person that needs our support. Cuz...thats helping SOOOO much.
    Then you should be more careful with your language. You said...

    The OP doesnt really apply to seniors. It is a mocking/baiting poll kinda thread in response to people like...oh...say...me that have no problem proclaiming certain segments of our society parasites. Its fun...because then we can draw the completely unconnected conclusion that since seniors who have typically spent a lifetime working and paying into the social security system arent parasites, then its absurd to call the welfare class parasites.

    You seem to be generalizing with references to segments and classes.

    You have not established that there are thousands and thousands of people that are like your hyperbolic example. You have not established that there isd one person like that and it still seems to be a fabrication.

    Welfare spending is not set to explode. The welfare reform of 96 did about as much as can be done without government snooping in to the lives of beneficiaries at an extreme level and cost. The law of diminishing returns is a factor in determining how far we should go to eliminate abuse and fraud. Eliminating it completely is a stupid and counterproductive goal.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    If you think drawing "hundreds" (prob'ly 400-500) is enough for them to live off for a month, then try doing it. You will quickly learn that no matter what your age, the bills keep rolling in. So $500 a month is a pitance. Even if they are living in their childs home, there is still money needed for personal care, food, clothing, and possibly chipping in for heat and electric. So a mere few hundred isn't going to go very far.
    sadly too many people labor under the delusion that SS was designed to support people in retirement. SS was supposed to be supplemental income. if you are planning on living off SS alone when you retire, you are a fool
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sadly too many people labor under the delusion that SS was designed to support people in retirement. SS was supposed to be supplemental income. if you are planning on living off SS alone when you retire, you are a fool
    What gives you the right to tell me what to do with my money, whether I use my SS to eat or plan to gamble it away is my business just like the SS I paid in is my money, go steal money from wall street or from the oil companies

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    What gives you the right to tell me what to do with my money, whether I use my SS to eat or plan to gamble it away is my business just like the SS I paid in is my money, go steal money from wall street or from the oil companies
    really? that's what you got from my post? no wonder you are having trouble making ends meet I don't give a **** what you do with your money. the point is, social security was never designed to pay out enough money for you to live on. it was designed to supplement other retirements/savings (you have heard of saving money haven't you?)
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I see an average of 450 patients a year. Im one of a team of 7 responders and we see about the same number of people. Thats not including the salaried full time employees. They see a lot more. Not everyone we see is a medicaid recipient. Not every recipient is typical of the case I cited. But significant numbers. Anecdotal? Sure...believe it...dont...I dont really care. If you really dont see this as a problem, theres nothing I can say to you...you dont WANT to see it. If you dont think medicare recipient fraud is a problem, youve never done any research on it. Every state has a department that investigates the problem. Every state has similar problems. And the the case I cited wasnt even fraudulent...they are simply a by-product of an enabling system.
    And because you gave them medical attention you know their entire life story? Not likely. What is more likely is that you have invented these facts and are just making assumptions based on wild speculation.

    The funny part is that instead of being pissed that the system creates such people, or being pissed that it is so easily and readily abused by both fraudulent recipients and fraudulent caregivers, defenders of the system ignore the fraud, downplay the abuses...and cost those that TRULY need the services.
    We cannot hope to eliminate all fraud and abuse and the cost of trying becomes prohibitive at some point. You can throw the baby out with the bathwater or you can live with the unintended consequences. There is no perfect solution. Welfare is not even close to our biggest problem anymore.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Then you should be more careful with your language. You said...

    The OP doesnt really apply to seniors. It is a mocking/baiting poll kinda thread in response to people like...oh...say...me that have no problem proclaiming certain segments of our society parasites. Its fun...because then we can draw the completely unconnected conclusion that since seniors who have typically spent a lifetime working and paying into the social security system arent parasites, then its absurd to call the welfare class parasites.


    You seem to be generalizing with references to segments and classes.

    You have not established that there are thousands and thousands of people that are like your hyperbolic example. You have not established that there isd one person like that and it still seems to be a fabrication.

    Welfare spending is not set to explode. The welfare reform of 96 did about as much as can be done without government snooping in to the lives of beneficiaries at an extreme level and cost. The law of diminishing returns is a factor in determining how far we should go to eliminate abuse and fraud. Eliminating it completely is a stupid and counterproductive goal.
    What part of "certain segments of our society" do you not understand? And did you not read the first part of my response to the thread stating that of COURSE this tghread didnt actually apply to senior citizens but that it was merely a bait thread?

    I have said on numerous occasions that there are MANY that NEED social services. YOU should be pissed at those that I described and the thousands...yes THOUSANDS that are stealing those resources from those that NEED it rather than be all pissy and indignant that I point out that in fact it is HAPPENING.

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