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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree with most of this post....the problem is corporate interests and the rich want everyone in 401ks so they can use and manipulate those hundreds of billions of dollars....in the last 9 days working class peoples 401ks have lost 17% of their value...how would you like to be 65 and wanting to retire right now today....401ks are a HUGE RISK and many people have lost everything with 401ks....and the rich wallstreeters love it, they are obsessed with getting their hands on all the money in social security....screw them
    Me? Im opposed to the 401k idea (with an exception). I think the investments for social security ought to be 1, limited, 2 voluntary, 3 tied into secure long term investments. The exception...if an individual is within say 10 years of retirement age (should be moved to 70) and has demonstrated a consistent earnings of 250k or more for a minimum of 5 years then they should be able to opt out (with penalty) of the system entirely and invest however they want (with the understanding that done is done...if they lose it all they lose it and they are not entitled to further SS benefits. I think it is HEALTHY to start treating adults like adults.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I used to live next to Sun City, they are terrible drivers, terror on wheels....
    Come on Bill be honest.

    Anybody from Utah has aproblem driving.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Come on Bill be honest.

    Anybody from Utah has aproblem driving.
    actually, putting is my weakness.....
    Last time I played, I beat my friend's son by 1 stroke. But, he was 7 at the time....I was 22....

    I have been a driver in TX, VA, CA, WA, ID, AZ, and now UT.
    I think the Norfolk, VA drivers were the worst, tend to drive too fast, followed by Bremerton, WA drivers, who drive too slow, and ignore stop signs.....
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    actually, putting is my weakness.....
    Last time I played, I beat my friend's son by 1 stroke. But, he was 7 at the time....I was 22....

    I have been a driver in TX, VA, CA, WA, ID, AZ, and now UT.
    I think the Norfolk, VA drivers were the worst, tend to drive too fast, followed by Bremerton, WA drivers, who drive too slow, and ignore stop signs.....
    I lived in Las Vegas for 10 years. There were drivers from all 50 states plus Canada and beyond.

    By far the cars with the Utah plates were the ones causing the most problems.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, the reason for privatizing SS is to allow more choice and to take the money out of the hands of Congress.
    In 76 years, the government has never failed to make their SS payments. Are you seriously claiming Wall street is a safer bet?
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So by your links, there is concern over a privatized social security (do you even have a clue what percentage Bush proposed people that CHOOSe to invest entailed? or that it was strictly volutnary), that some politicians have proposed cuts for the highest wage earners (sounds like what we have heard many people HERE say about the rich and social security), and that people see privatization (not elimination) as a solution for the social security program. What exactly is Ryan or Cantors plan? I mean...beyond the scare tactics and sound bites that you throw out there that make people like Earl wet himself. More. In a system where we now have +20% unemployment and rising...who exactly is paying into that system? How does it remain solvent without some form of change?

    You have said absolutely NOTHING that i havent already said. SOME people believe the system needs reviewing. SOME believe that it needs revamping. SOME believe privatization is a more efficient means of not only securing but growing the program. You just keep using the same lame tired ass scare tactics.
    The only revamping SS requires is to raise the FICA cap, repay the money owed it by the general fund, and lock the funds from future use for anything but SS, and your lame ass opinions devoid of facts to back them do nothing to change that reality.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In 76 years, the government has never failed to make their SS payments. Are you seriously claiming Wall street is a safer bet?
    Absolutely. If Wall Street could just take your money by force, would you be more trusting of them? My money is in a 401k. Yes, my account value goes up and down as the market fluctuates. Of course, Social Security has no value and the government has no legal obligation to pay you a damn thing.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Absolutely. If Wall Street could just take your money by force, would you be more trusting of them? My money is in a 401k. Yes, my account value goes up and down as the market fluctuates. Of course, Social Security has no value and the government has no legal obligation to pay you a damn thing.
    Where would your money be right now if tax payer dollars where not used to bail out wall street? Wall street is the largest ponzi scheme ever imaginable and should be shut down before it takes the whole world down with it.

    The government took our SS money and used it to finance the tax breaks for the rich but they left U. S. Government securities

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    As stated above, money flowing into the trust funds is invested in U. S. Government securities. Because the government spends this borrowed cash, some people see the trust fund assets as an accumulation of securities that the government will be unable to make good on in the future. Without legislation to restore long-range solvency of the trust funds, redemption of long-term securities prior to maturity would be necessary.

    Far from being "worthless IOUs," the investments held by the trust funds are backed by the full faith and credit of the U. S. Government. The government has always repaid Social Security, with interest. The special-issue securities are, therefore, just as safe as U.S. Savings Bonds or other financial instruments of the Federal government.
    I don't know where you get your information from but it looks like your source is not credible

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Absolutely. If Wall Street could just take your money by force, would you be more trusting of them? My money is in a 401k. Yes, my account value goes up and down as the market fluctuates. Of course, Social Security has no value and the government has no legal obligation to pay you a damn thing.
    No one is taking my money for SS by force. It is what our country agreed on collectively and has been upheld by the Supreme Court under both parties for the last 76 years, and they have never missed a single payment in all of that time.

    There is no Social Security crisis. To learn more, see:

    - Top 5 Social Security Myths -
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Absolutely. If Wall Street could just take your money by force, would you be more trusting of them? My money is in a 401k. Yes, my account value goes up and down as the market fluctuates. Of course, Social Security has no value and the government has no legal obligation to pay you a damn thing.
    but there would be hell to pay if just one of our congressional crooksters proposed such a thing.
    It would be worse than the govt deciding to prosecute ALL the Wall Street crooks instead of just a token few.
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