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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Those statements negate the fact that, as of today, Medicare recipients enjoy costly treatment and unlimited buffet-style health care that is largely financed entirely by current working individuals.
    The comments were not about the current Medicare program, they were in regards to your statement about the Congressional health care reform - "I don't understand the basis or justification behind a mandatory insurance plan run by an inefficient third party."

    I showed the Republicans intent when they came up with the mandatory health insurance plan.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No one wants to make the hard choices to solve the problem; folks just want to band-aid it or pretend it doesn't exist. This is why I support drug/alcohol screens for folks on SS/Welfare/Medicare/Medicaid. If you have a drug/alcohol problem and you WANT help, I support the government supporting this kind of help, in a rehab that can actually do this. Not some 30 day detox. If they don't want help... that's fine, too. But if that's the case, they get NO SS/Welfare/Medicare/Medicaid. And, I do not support unlimited rehab visits, either. These folks are not the majority of people, not even close, but they are milking the system with issues that could be dealt with, if they choose. And if they do, I support government assistance. And if they don't they should get NONE.

    I've presented this plan before and it is part of my overall plan to resolve the nation's health care issues and create more financial stability.
    I think that makes a lot of sense!
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Well.. I don't know what to say there.. There is more than one site that quotes the $22 trillion and others that quote a much smaller amount.. Could be a typo.. Maybe it is supposed to be $2.2 trillion.. Who knows..
    When Bush took office, he publicly stated there was 2.6 trilion surplus in the SS trust funds and that he was going to make sure the surplus was not used for anything else but SS, before he left office he publically stated the surplus was gone.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Your right SS was not a choice and good or bad I intend to get every cent plus interest back on my SS investment, please be a good conservative and try to eliminate or reduce SS so that the people can see what conservatives are all about, do it before 2012 so that we can vote all of your lot out of office
    You don't know anything about conservatism, but you know how to be a parasite that's plainly clear.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't know anything about conservatism, but you know how to be a parasite that's plainly clear.
    2012 GOP campaign message to seniors - "You don't know anything about conservatism, but you know how to be a parasite that's plainly clear."

    Way to represent!!!
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Some are, some aren't. It has nothing to do with who paid into the Ponzi Scheme and is now collecting.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Some are, some aren't. It has nothing to do with who paid into the Ponzi Scheme and is now collecting.
    What does Wall street have to do with this topic????
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    2012 GOP campaign message to seniors - "You don't know anything about conservatism, but you know how to be a parasite that's plainly clear."

    Way to represent!!!
    Democratic campaign slogan, "Gimme all your money, you greedy bastards."

    Way to represent.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The whole idea was that people would put into the system and it would sit there and wait for them to retire. Unfortunately, the government raided social security and spent all the money that was supposed to be sitting there accumulating interest so now, there's no money left and there are far more people retiring than people in the system to replenish the supply.
    How is it that those who were either not born or not old enough to vote shoould be held responsible for the actions of politicians elected by the elderly, but the elderly should not be? That makes absolutely no sense. They elected those politicians.

    Your idea is may be worse than spending it.

    If it is just "sitting there" it will not earn interest. Fiat money is not a real resource. If you were to just collect it and put it in to an account then it would reduce the money supply available to the market and increase the purchasing power of current dollar holders. Once more started coming out it would increase the money supply and decrease the purshasing power of current dollar holders. It would have still been spent by past generations and created a huge burden on the workforce of 2017 and beyond.

    The only way for it to produce real income would be to invest it in the market or in the debt of other nations. But that would come with risk and would lead to corruption and cronyism.

    SS should be treated as what it is, a welfare program. But grandpa and grandma want to be able to call other welfare recipients names while they themselves live off of welfare. It's the "Keep Government out of Medicare" delusion. Everybody wants to pretend that their welfare is justified, just not any that goes to the poor, which is exactly why I took VanceMack to task for his absurd attacks.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The last time I checked this is America and freedom of speech is guaranteed by the first amendment, it's people like you who think they can tell others to shut up that are the biggest threat to our country, who are you to tell anyone to shut up? My grand children will not need to take care of me, why? Because I worked all of my life and paid into SS, my two pensions, savings and SS will support me till I don't need it any longer, I hope the repubs,tea baggers and people that think like you put your fingers on my SS that will just about guarantee the end to the repubs and tea baggers
    Free speech gives me the right to criticize the idiotic speech of others including your delusions. I can tell you to "shut up" all I like. I am not free to force you in anyway and you are free to ignore me and to continue talking like an idiot.

    Your SS will come out of your grandchildren. They will be forced to pay for your SS through income taxes as the Ponzi scheme starts to become top heavy in 2017.

    And in your last few sentences you show why your generation is to blame. Your generation is responsible for the insolvency of SS and you stand in the way of doing anything to fix it now.

    Like I said, I am sure the poor and elderly will be taken care of, but it is not because they are entitled to any thing. They are welfare recipients and nothing more.
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