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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    If you end SS medicare medicaid all pensions and paid benefits...what do you do with all the millions of people that cant save for their own old age or dont...or cant save enough...what do you do with the millions that dont have health care as they get sick...
    All the teaparty does is rail on entitlements they only OFFER solutions to get rid of them...but they dont tell US who is going to pay for all the people that dont work now who arent going to start..who cant work now...who dont make enough to do it on their own...etc etc etc....harry with all due respect...I believe your a gentleman and this is not directed at you...the teaparty is totally full of ****
    What you are also missing is an understanding of Tea Party supporters. I met with Tea Party individuals at a demonstration. Two older folks there were carrying signs that read ďNO GOV HEALTH CAREĒ, but to me they looked old enough to be on Medicare. They were on Medicare. They explained to me that they didnít want the government taking Medicare over and messing with it.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    They explained to me that they didn’t want the government taking Medicare over and messing with it.
    Could you arrainge for me to meet them. I have an investment plan where they purchase Gold that I hold for them. Its a sure thing.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    What part of SS being an investment is hard for some people to understand? People put money into this system, largely against their will but also with the promise that it would be some support for later on. It was given with the knowledge that we are a hard working society and we want to take care of our elderly, after they have put in their work.

    SS has been eroded because successive administrations and congress members have voted to take money out of it for diversion to other projects. The money should have been made sacrosanct from the start. If a bank did this to your investment and couldn't cover the return funds, the bank would get sued or they would go under as every member would withdraw its investments. Yet it's okay for government to do it, and sometimes for completely arbitrary purposes.

    People are entitled to this money. I agree reforms are needed - such as not letting the government touch this money - but the money MUST be there when they retire, as promised. It's not selfish or "liberal" to require this. It's getting what you are already owed - it's YOUR money. That's why it's called an entitlement payment. You are entitled to get it, and they are required to give it to you.

    As for welfare and other social services... those are more up for debate. I find myself agreeing more and more with drug testing. But I agree with CC that the rehab offered must be effective, otherwise people will be put through a harrowing ordeal that is not ultimately helping them.
    None of it was ever invested. It was spent by governments elected by the elderly and mostly consumed by them. Why should current and future workers be forced to pay the elderly back for money they loaned to themselves and spent?

    They are owed nothing. I am sure their grandchildren will do the right thing and take care of them the best they can. But they need to shut up with this entitlement bs. They are receiving welfare.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    If you end SS medicare medicaid all pensions and paid benefits...what do you do with all the millions of people that cant save for their own old age or dont...or cant save enough...what do you do with the millions that dont have health care as they get sick...
    All the teaparty does is rail on entitlements they only OFFER solutions to get rid of them...but they dont tell US who is going to pay for all the people that dont work now who arent going to start..who cant work now...who dont make enough to do it on their own...etc etc etc....harry with all due respect...I believe your a gentleman and this is not directed at you...the teaparty is totally full of ****
    Sorry, I have to reply again. A Tea Party family was at the demonstration, father, mother and one 10 year old son; two more at home. My wife and I chatted with them. The father is a vet that started serving just after the Viet War ended. He was disposing of Agent Orange; which in our opinion may have been the source of his health problems. He had a heart attack about 6 months earlier. Went to the hospital where his wife works as a low level employee. What she said she did only pays low wages. They canít afford the extra for family health insurance, she was the only one insured since that canít be refused for more pay. His bill was about $15,000. Her wages were garnished by the hospital; itís only a small garnishment so it will take a very long time to pay it off. Again, they were there with a Donít Tread On Me flag and more.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Prove it.. I don't see no links in your post??
    This is common knowledge.

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is a horrible thing to say but Ima do it anyway.


    When I am striken with a horrible illness that is mostly terminal, I'm just gonna go. I'll take a few pills and a little help from the hospital, but I'm not gonna do millions in chemo, surgery and hospital stays. I'm only 40, but I've made my choices (I smoke and drink) and I have been blessed beyond anything I could possibly deserve. An old person terrified of death is a sad thing in my book. There are children who starve at age 3 having never seen real food. 50,000 children die every day from lack of clean food and water. I've lived free and done what I wanted for a long time (all of my 40) and I just cannot see going in an economic scream. I don't understand blessed mature adults crying about million dollar treatments while children who've had nothing starve.

    I don't wanna die. My days are wonderful and I want them to never end. But, by 40 or so at least, people should be comfortable with their lives. They should have their things settled, their friends made, their famly aware and their soul established. I do not get why some go out the way they came in, as if they never saw nothin'.
    Reminded me of this article. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/op...pagewanted=all

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I would only add this: privatization without regulation is a bad idea. Big government is also not the answer.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    There is no good reason why those just entering the workforce should have to pay the elderly because they borrowed money from themseleves and spent it.
    The whole idea was that people would put into the system and it would sit there and wait for them to retire. Unfortunately, the government raided social security and spent all the money that was supposed to be sitting there accumulating interest so now, there's no money left and there are far more people retiring than people in the system to replenish the supply.
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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    None of it was ever invested. It was spent by governments elected by the elderly and mostly consumed by them. Why should current and future workers be forced to pay the elderly back for money they loaned to themselves and spent?

    They are owed nothing. I am sure their grandchildren will do the right thing and take care of them the best they can. But they need to shut up with this entitlement bs. They are receiving welfare.
    The last time I checked this is America and freedom of speech is guaranteed by the first amendment, it's people like you who think they can tell others to shut up that are the biggest threat to our country, who are you to tell anyone to shut up? My grand children will not need to take care of me, why? Because I worked all of my life and paid into SS, my two pensions, savings and SS will support me till I don't need it any longer, I hope the repubs,tea baggers and people that think like you put your fingers on my SS that will just about guarantee the end to the repubs and tea baggers

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    Re: Are Seniors Lazy Parasites

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Privatization of SS, at some level, is inevitable.
    I agree. But the problem is how do you pay the benefits for those currently drawing? Say you move 50% of social security tax into some kind of privatized system. Do you reduce the payout for all those currently drawing social security by 50%?

    And of course, the majority of people aren't able to calculate the difference between social security and what they could have with private retirement + private disability insurance. I think the reason it's not more of an issue is it is, is the American people don't realize just how badly they're being screwed by the social security system.

    It's really not a question of public versus private benefits, but more of how it works. A private company using the same model as social security would be equally screwed. But once you've established the system, how do you get out of it? A private company offering that kind of plan could go out of business. The government isn't so lucky.

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