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  • Employers and landlords should not be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Employees and landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

    9 17.65%
  • Only employers should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Only landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Employers should be allowed to ask about crimes are "significantly related"

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  • Landlords should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related"

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    If laws are important enough to receive government action, prosection, and conviction on, they are important enough for me to be aware of. Up to me if it's relevant.

    As someone else noted, you could also have a third party do the legal evaluation and just give red or green light, so history is preserved. Costs money though, let me guess who pays....

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    If laws are important enough to receive government action, prosection, and conviction on, they are important enough for me to be aware of. Up to me if it's relevant.

    As someone else noted, you could also have a third party do the legal evaluation and just give red or green light, so history is preserved. Costs money though, let me guess who pays....
    The tenant pays either way, because fees related to renting the place out are business expenses for the LLC that property belongs to, and are figured into the rent.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    for many, many employers that would be an automatic disqualification. i don't know what the answer is, but ex-cons need to have jobs.
    Let them work for the government, its full of crooks.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Landlords should mind they own. As long they getting paid why worry over it
    Because the last thing I want is someone who is a convicted criminal (especially sex offender) living in the building where my daughters are also living...
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Because the last thing I want is someone who is a convicted criminal (especially sex offender) living in the building where my daughters are also living...
    If you keep the sex offenders busy, they won't give a f*ck about your daughters since they can go get more legitimate fun. The more you antagonize them, the more likely they are to retaliate by raping. It gives them a sense of control over their lives when you deny them it. If you give them a job, encourage them to spend their money in ways that make them happy with life, and generally give them ways they can regain their own sense of control over their destiny, I don't think you will see them raping too many women. But then again- that would require actually spending your time and efforts to help them, and unfortunately not too many people are willing to do that. We're so scared that their past will define their future, we never give them an opportunity to change.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    In my opinion Employers and Landlords have every right to do a background check on potential employees and renters...they are entitled to protect their business and property

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    In my opinion Employers and Landlords have every right to do a background check on potential employees and renters...they are entitled to protect their business and property
    Do they also have a right to look into their medical history, into their friendship circle, and into their daily habits? Everything a person does can effect their employment and what they do in the place they live in. Checking their criminal history to see if they have ever committed a crime is no different from checking their medical history to see if they have a history of drunkards...it's just as likely to affect their current life practices, and I find it just as ridiculous. Peoples' past habits do not define their present actions. The sooner we as a people figure that out and stop judging people based on mistakes they made previous, the better.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Belgarath View Post
    If you keep the sex offenders busy, they won't give a f*ck about your daughters since they can go get more legitimate fun. The more you antagonize them, the more likely they are to retaliate by raping. It gives them a sense of control over their lives when you deny them it. If you give them a job, encourage them to spend their money in ways that make them happy with life, and generally give them ways they can regain their own sense of control over their destiny, I don't think you will see them raping too many women. But then again- that would require actually spending your time and efforts to help them, and unfortunately not too many people are willing to do that. We're so scared that their past will define their future, we never give them an opportunity to change.
    I'm sorry, but you obviously know nothing about pedophiles or serial rapists. Keeping them "busy" doesn't satisfy the urges they develop to do the things they do. That's why they're SERIAL.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm sorry, but you obviously know nothing about pedophiles or serial rapists. Keeping them "busy" doesn't satisfy the urges they develop to do the things they do. That's why they're SERIAL.
    Pedophiles and serial rapists are entirely different, for one thing. Serial rapists are in jail- it's a life sentence. So they must have been acquitted, in which case as far as I'm concerned they didn't do it. There's a lot of work right now in the legal fields towards getting the pedophile sentence extended to life as well, which seems logical to me. But from my experience, many "sex offenders" committed maybe one, two rapes, faced a ton of jail time and a fee and suffered for their illegal decisions, and are now released to the general public, if not guilty over what they did at least aware of what the result is of doing it again. Also, I am not strongly against a sex offender registry. I am also not against personality tests- if someone tests in as a kleptomaniac, I can understand not wanting them in your house. Again, I have no problem with them being in mine because I honestly don't give a sh*t if they take anything, but I can understand other people being more attached to their belongings. I think it's reasonable to want to know the personality of the person, since they might be a party person when you like a quiet house, or an pet-lover when you don't like animals. In those cases I can understand advising the person not to come based on limitations you put on your tenants. But if they just stole something, or did some other petty crime years back and served their sentence, I think it's unfair for people to judge them based on that. The employers or landlords shouldn't be able to see what they did, but rather, using the personality tests, they can decide what the risk is of them doing something in the future, and based on that make their decision. Once again, I am not strongly against sex offender directories- you are correct that there are people whose urges won't be satisfied without illegal activity, and who can't resist those urges forever, and in those cases I am sorry for those people. But that is a small sex offenders, an even smaller percent of people, and I don't think that that alone merits a criminal record check.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    If I am hiring someone, or renting an apartment out to them, I have the right to know if they have engaged in criminal activity. What would even qualify as an unrelated offence?
    In other words, "once a criminal. always a criminal."
    So define "criminal".
    This is quite the problem, and I see no solution.
    We do need a better people - in all areas.

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