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  • Employers and landlords should not be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Employees and landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Only employers should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Only landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history

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  • Employers should be allowed to ask about crimes are "significantly related"

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  • Landlords should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related"

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I helped my son in law get a job where I work. He had a conviction for assault when he was like 19. (got into a fight). He asked me if this would bar him. I told him to be up front and tell the truth. He did. They told him that by being honest and it being years ago, it would mean nothing.

    If he had lied and they found out he would have never been hired. So the question can be used for many reasons.
    Not all employers are that nice. In fact I would say that 90%-95% of them are not. Yes its a number pulled outta my buttocks. But then I have experiance in this area.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not all employers are that nice. In fact I would say that 90%-95% of them are not. Yes its a number pulled outta my buttocks. But then I have experiance in this area.
    A better way to do things is to expunge, the public record, provided that they are well behaved after release, say for 5 years.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Absolutely, employers and landlords have every right to know the criminal history of potential employees and renters. Landlords have a further right to know the financial history of those who will take possession of their property.

    If I'm hiring someone, for my business or as a nanny, damned right I want to know if they've been convicted of a felony, and what that felony was. I don't want a drunk drug addict or child molester caring for my kids. I don't want an embezzler, thief or violent offender wandering the halls of my business.

    San Francisco is certifiably bat-**** crazy. This is just another in a long line of bat-**** crazy shenanigans to come out of that asylum-by-the-bay.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A better way to do things is to expunge, the public record, provided that they are well behaved after release, say for 5 years.
    It would have to be an automatic thing. You can get your record expunged now, but the problem is that most that have commited a crime don't know this or do know it but just don't have the money to do so.

    BTW just having your record expunged doesn't do enough. All that it does is make it to where when someone looks up your record all that they see is that you were arrested for it but instead of showing a guilty verdict it shows that you weren't in a vague way. In order for you to be completely free of it you also have to get your record sealed. Each process can take a minimum of 6 months to accomplish and a minimum of $1500 for each process. And even then after having gone through all of this the full records are still available to all federal agencies.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It would have to be an automatic thing. You can get your record expunged now, but the problem is that most that have commited a crime don't know this or do know it but just don't have the money to do so.

    BTW just having your record expunged doesn't do enough. All that it does is make it to where when someone looks up your record all that they see is that you were arrested for it but instead of showing a guilty verdict it shows that you weren't in a vague way. In order for you to be completely free of it you also have to get your record sealed. Each process can take a minimum of 6 months to accomplish and a minimum of $1500 for each process. And even then after having gone through all of this the full records are still available to all federal agencies.
    I don't have a problem with federal agencies having this information, especially if the offense committed is a repeat, even years after the original incident.
    It shows that the person was not reformed at all.

    Again I don't have a problem closing all the records, related to the arrest and conviction, as long as the person has presented consistent behavior of reformation.
    I wouldn't even mind it being free at point of service.

    It creates a greater incentive for the person to reform.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    I think that both employers and landlords should be allowed to ask about crimes that are relevant. For example if you were convicted of insider trading, I wouldn't hire you as a stock trader. If you robbed a bank, you probably shouldn't be working at one. If you were in jail because you were running a meth lab, I sure as hell would want to know that before I rented you an apartment.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Criminal history is important. Things like the type of crime, when it was committed, and how frequently crimes were committed is pretty pertinent to whether or not I want that person in my office or home.
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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    I don't give a fig if someone has committed a crime in the past. Last summer, I had a kid stay with me for 4 months. The police know me- I helped them out on one of their cases. So they suggested that I help this kid out over the summer, help him find a summer job. I never asked what he did- that's his business. I don't have a crapload of money in my place. I don't see why anyone rich enough to have crap that they value that much needs to have tenants. I got payed $60 a month for this kid, 1$ a day. I got him his job the first day, receptionist at the local copy place. He payed for his own meals, his own recreation- he brought some friends over, he knew if he did anything illegal while I was around or let me find out he was doing anything he'd be back at the police before he had a chance to explain. Your past doesn't define you- it's your present. I've done that 5 times for kids, brought 'em in and found a job for them, given them a chance to learn that the real world isn't really out to get you if you find help. I've never had anything stolen, they always left with plans for a job and an apartment so they could start finding they're own way in the world. People are only as mean and bitchy as you make them...if you treat them like adults and you give them the assumption they can get their sh*t together, they usually do. It's the people who judge or scorn you because of some stupid thing you did 5, 10 years ago that make kids these days mean and angry. Learn to deal with your biases...if you get in trouble, someday you'll wish more people out there who offered that.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a criminal record/past?


    Employers and landlords should not be banned from asking about any criminal history.

    Employees and landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history.

    Only employers should be banned from asking about any criminal history.

    Only landlords should be banned from asking about any criminal history.


    Employers should be allowed to ask about crimes are "significantly related".For example a bank asking if the applicant if they been convicted of armed robbery, theft or embezzlement or a Daycare asking the applicant if they have been convicted of child molestation,rape or abuse.

    Landlords should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related".For example a landlord asking the applicant if they are a convicted sex offender or if they have been convicted of making meth.

    Both should be allowed to ask about crimes that are "significantly related.

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    I think limiting an employer or landlord to what questions they can ask is the best solution. This still allowed employers and landlords to weed out potential threats while at the same time preventing someone who was convicted of a unrelated offense from being discriminated against.
    I'll ask my applicants if they would like to voluntarily submit to a criminal back-round check. Those that don't will receive a polite, professional letter in the mail telling them I've declined their application, and I won't even state why. Those that do submit and have criminal convictions, that's a fact-dependent judgement call I will make on a case by case basis.

    As a contractor I advise homeowners to only use contractors who perform criminal checks. It's also perfectly within the homeowner's rights to request that no one with various convictions be sent to work on their home.
    Last edited by Jerry; 07-25-11 at 07:30 PM.

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    Re: Should employers & landlords be prohibited from asking applicants if they have a

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    It varies from state-to-state, and sometimes even county-to-county. I couldn't say for sure that there's not a national database. I know I have had access to one, but that was about ten years ago and I honestly can't remember the specifics.
    When my X started playing her games, all I had was a land-line that she called me from once when her cell died, to go on. 1 hour later I had the address, history of that property going back 70 years, criminal backgrounds on everyone who listed that address as their home, their place of work, license plate numbers.....all kinds of information.

    And it was all legally acquired. 100% above board. I was ready for them to sue me for stalking or something when they eventually found out so I was sure to keep my credit-card receipts and screenshots of the various site I used. So, yeah, if I'm asking you give me your criminal history, you don't actually have a choice, I'm just phrasing it in the form of a question to be polite.
    Last edited by Jerry; 07-25-11 at 07:38 PM.

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